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When
did
you
first
hear
about
acid
house
in
Blackburn?
And
how
did
you
get
involved
in?
What’s
your
involvement
in
it?
I’d
never,
…
the
only
thing
I
heard
of
acid
house
was
in
Manchester
going
over
to
the
Boardwalk
one,
one
night
to
watch
some
bands
and
I’d
never
heard
this
music
before
and
then
when
I
suddenly
you
know,
it
…
everything
just
switched
in
one,
it
seemed
to
be
over
one
weekend
from
the
all
the
Indie
music
to
this
acid
house
music
and
I
remember
thinking
…
what
they
actually,
I
remember
the
track
was
that
was
Acieed.
…
…
that
one.
Yeah
in
the
boardwalk
and
I
couldn’t
tell
what
they
were
saying
in
this
this
this
this
song
but
remember
all
these
people
just
getting
up
and
dancing
to
it
and
I’m
thinking
what’s
this
four
to
the
floor,
you
know
sort
of
disco
beat
almost
but
very
very
loud.
Yeah,
because
at
the
time
it
was
just
…
…
well
it was
indie-rock.
Yeah.
…
actually
really
yeah.
I didn’t
realise it
was
going
to
go
on
the
scale
it
did
and
it
was
only
a
matter
of
about
a
month
later
that
I
was
…
I
was
in
Blackburn
and
I
was
at
a
party.
I
was
supposed
to
be
playing
myself
in
in
London,
but
it
would
the gig
had been
cancelled.
And
that
was
for
which
band?
I
can’t
remember
who it
was
I was
supposed
to
be
seeing
now.
…
All
right,
I
thought,
sorry
…
my
band?
…
…
Bitter
Harvest.
Yeah,
we
weren’t.
For some
reason
it’d been
cancelled.
And
I
ended
up
at a
party
up at
Revidge
which
is
on
the
North
side
of
Blackburn.
Yep.
And
we
came
out
of
there
at
about
midnight
this
party.
We
could
hear
this
noise
this
thumping
noise.
And
at the
time
I
lived
up in
Mill
Hill
flats
which
is
sort
of
central
Blackburn
and
there’s
another
story
about
that
remind
me
to
tell
you about
the
flats
when
it,
in
a
minute
and
I
was,
we
…
…
sort
of,
where
is
this
sound
coming
from?
So
we
started
to
walk
towards
it
and
just
we
couldn’t
you
know,
couldn’t
…
…
because
we
…
…
…
we
had
to
drop
right
down
into
Blackburn,
we
…
just
kept
walking
and
walking
until
it was
getting
louder.
And
then
so
we got,
we
got,
we
got
to
our
flat
and
we
still
could
hear
it
and
it
was
getting
louder
as
we
got
nearer.
So
we
just
carried
on
walking
and
I
said
it’s
Tockholes
it’s
up
there.
Something’s
going
on
up
Tockholes
And
so
we
walked
…
…
dunno
how many
miles we
walked that
day,
but
it
was
like
we walked
up
there
and
then
suddenly
you
could
see
everything
was
going,
something
was
going
on.
It
was
literally
the,
this would
be
the
other
side
of
Blackburn.
Yeah.
So
we
walked
from
the
north
to…
well
almost
to
Belmont
almost
which
was
yeah.
…
is
near
Bolton.
And
so
we’d
walked
right
…
right
across
Blackburn
and right
out
the
other
side.
And
then
we
found
what
was
going
on,
you
know
and
then started
seeing
people
and
you
know,
then
…
obviously
…
…
…
…
the
sound
was
getting
louder
and
louder
and
that’s
how
I
discovered
it
when
I
had
no
idea
it
was
happening.
I
don’t
think
nobody,
…
…
well
some
people
must
have
known.
But
it
transpired
that
the
flat
…
that
I
lived
in
in
Griffin
Court
in
Blackburn,
I
lived
in 49
and
the
Kreft
brothers
lived
at
number
50
Now
they
were
supposed,
I
don’t
know if
you
can
use
this
or not…
You
can,
Tony’s
done
an
interview.
oh
has
he,
well
say
hello
for
me
because
I
lived
next
door
to
him.
And
they,
and
…
it
became
clear
over
that
summer
that they
were
prime
movers
in
this
what was
going
on.
Tony and
Dean
was
it?
Dean?
That’s
correct.
Yeah,
and
we
used
to,
I used to
speak
to
em,
I’d go
on
my
balcony
sometime,
and
they
knew
I
was
a
musician
and
you
know,
and
I
knew
they
were
sort
of
in
with
the
Manchester
lot
and
we
just,
…
I’d
just
hop
over
me
balcony
rail
and
go
and
sit
and talk
to
em,
you
know,
and
that
sometimes
and
the
girl
that I
lived
with
…
…
Adriano
Jessica,
I
shared
a
flat
with her
and
she
was
always
complaining
about
the
noise
that they
were
making
but
I
was
quite
into
it.
But
that
was,
that
that
was
it.
That
was
the
irony
of
it, I
actually
lived
next
door
to
em.
Wow,
fantastic.
Yeah,
and
it
took
me
a
while
to,
because
…
…
because
obviously
they
kept
it
quiet
at
the
time,
you
know,
it
was,
they
weren’t
nobody
was
supposed
to
know.
But
that’s
the
first
time
I
became
aware
of
it, I
was
that
night.
And
you
went
to
some
other
do’s
as
well.
Yeah
I went
to
a
couple
ones
where
you
turned
up
at
Red
Parrot.
I
think
it
was.
That’s
right.
And
you
then
you
get
told
where
it
was.
And
I used to
be in
the car,
…
I
wasn’t
driving
but
I’d be in
somebody’s
car,
so
I
just
used
to
end
up
…
…
…
wherever
it
was.
And
what
was
what
what
did
you
what
did
you
actually
think
of
them?
Truthfully?
I
know
you
would
come
…
came
from
a
completely
different
scene.
Yeah,
Well
everybody
came
from
a
completely
different
scene.
It took
me
while,
I
mean,
I
liked
the…
the
music
wasn’t
really
big
on
my
agenda.
But
when
I
got
there
when
there
were
all them
people
together,
I
could
…
I
completely
got
it.
Yeah,
…
…
It
was
like,
it
was
a
togetherness
thing.
It
wasn’t
really
about
the
music.
It
was,
it
was
a
counterculture
I
thought
you
know,
it
had
a
grassroots
of
a
youth
counterculture
and
I
think
it
was
you
know,
I
think
it
was.
Whether
they
liked
it
or
not.
I
mean,
it
split
I
remember
the
next
day
the
Telegraph
on
the
Monday
the
Lancashire
Evening
Telegraph
put
in
the
farmers
…
name
and
phone
number
in
the
paper,
so
they
could
…
phone
him
up
and
complain
about
the
noise
because
it
went
on
till
0.375
on
Sunday
morning.
I
remember
that
and
I
remember
the
Telegraph
printing
the
farmers
phone
number
and
people
my
age
I
would
have
been
21
at
the
time
22
maybe
and
people
my age
were
split
and
some
of
them
were
saying
this
is
disgusting.
You
can’t
do
this,
you
know,
…
…
and we’re
going
…
hang
on
a
minute.
We’re
only
20
thought,
you
know,
we’re
only in
our teens,
what’s
the
problem?
You
know
…
so,
but
…
so
the
music
really
wasn’t
you
know,
my
sort
of
thing.
I
could
never
understand
why
people
would
play
it
at
home.
Dean and
Rob
had
it
on
full
blast
all
the
time
next
door,
you
know,
and
I
thought
that
would,
I
don’t
get
that.
But
I
think
I
got
it
totally
out
in
the
field
or
in
a
warehouse
somewhere
and
everybody’s
together
and
everyone
was
having
a
good
time.
There
were never
any
fighting
or
anything,
that
I
ever
saw,
you
know,
and
it
was
it
was
it
was
just
great.
Just
dancing.
It
was
just
dancing
for
the
sake of
dancing.
It
was
a
counterculture.
I
think
against
what
we
grown
up
with,
which
Thatcherism
if
you
want
to
get
political
about
it,
and all
that
years
and
years
of
just
oppression
really,
not,
but
you
know,
we
had
nothing
did
we
and
we
were
very
dour
weren’t
we,
we all
dressed
in
black
and
you
know
long,
it
went
very
quickly
from
the
long
black
coat
and
the
crew
cuts
to
the,
the
longer
and
the
colorful
clothes
and
the
flares
and
yeah,
it
did,
yeah.
Yeah.
Do you
remember
any bad
side
about
it
apart
from
the
obvious,
you
know
bad
press
and
things
like
that
and
keeping
you
awake
obviously
in
your
flat.
They
didn’t
bother
me
…
because
I
stayed
until
the
end
I
stayed
until
9
o’clock
in
the
morning,
but
it
were
because
you
know,
…
once
we
arrived
there
we
just
stayed
there.
Bad
side
of
it
and
I
didn’t.
I
think
it
was
just
…
people’s
reaction
to
it
that was
the
bad
side
of
it.
The
older
people,
but
again,
it’s
like
a
new
youth
culture
movement.
The
kids
are
doing
something
we
don’t
understand,
oh
heck,
you
know
what
they
doing?
you
know
oh
they
must
be,
they
must
be
taking
drugs?
And
yeah
and
looking
at
it
now,
it
doesn’t
seem
that
shocking
or
outrageous.
But
at
the
time
this
is
the,
this
is
the,
probably
the
hardest
thing
to
understand
…
is
…
…
it
was
as
shocking
as
aliens
landing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well
nobody,
nobody
gave
permission
for
this.
You
know
and
it
was,
about,
I
think
as
…
…
time
went
on
I
think,
you
know,
obviously
but
you
could
say
it’s
a
bad
side
of
it.
Obviously
any
deaths
are,
y’know
too
Horrible,
but
there
were
deaths
and
all
sorts
at
that
time,
and
it
was
you
know
pretty
new
and
you
know,
somebody
was
going
to
cop
for
it
at
one
point.
Even
you
know,
there’s
a
couple
of
deaths
I
think
but
not,
not
in or
around
any
of
the
parties
I
ever
went
to.
Yeah.
You
know,
but
and
I wasn’t,
I
didn’t,
I
never
took
E
and
…
I
just
wasn’t
wasn’t
into
it.
And
I,
you
know,
I
knew
people
who
did.
I think
some
some
people
did
but
not
as
many
as
people
make
out.
No I
mean you
couldn’t get
hold
of
it
for
start
off.
Expensive
time.
Say
this
was
in
in
in
an
archive
and
somebody
was
researching
about
acid
house
at
the
time,
you
know
from,
you
know
100
years
time
looking
back.
Would
you
have
any
message?
What
would
you
say
to
say
to
youngsters
researching
it.
I’d say
like,
you
need
to
do
that
more
often.
It’s
for
me.
I
mean,
I
was
like
yourself
…
lucky
to
grow
up
in
the
time
that
we
did.
We
saw
so
many
different
…
youth
movements
in
our
time.
You
know,
we
had
…
…
the
mod
but
we
hadn’t
been
a
mod
before
that,
…
…
but
you
know,
I
was
sort
of
like
11
12
mod
and
punk
and
obviously
I was
too
young
to
be
a
punk.
But
you
know,
I
was
very
much
on
the
…
back
of
the
Clash,
y’know
it
carried
on.
And
I
think
it
was
the
last
real
movement,
you
know,
counterculture,
grassroots
youth
movement
that
there
was.
And
I
think
you
know,
I
think
it’s
to
be
celebrated
like
anything
else
really.
I
think
it’s
become
a
you
know,
the
time
at the
time
it,
I
think
some
gangsterism
got
involved
to
go
back
to
your
other
point
about
you
know,
I
know,
I
know
things
happened
…
and
you
know,
I
know
I
don’t
know
a
lot
about
that,
but
I
do
know
that
there
were
things
in,
like
any,
like
anything
…
like
the
Hacienda
in
Manchester
got
taken
over
by
…
you
know,
by
the
mafia
and
stuff.
And
it
was
all
that
sort
of
side
of
it.
And
I
know
a
couple
of
people
who
got
messed
up
by
it.
Yeah,
Rob
being
one
of
them
I
think.
I
think
it
was
Rob
that
ended
up going
to Israel
for
a
while
didn’t
he,
to
get,
to
get
himself
clean.
But
I
think
you
know,
there’s
always
there’s
always
going
to
be
casualties
but
I
think
on
the
whole
I
think
when
you
look
if
it
makes,
a
hundred
years
you
look
back
at
it.
I
think
it’s,
it’ll
be
a
very
…
a
brief
period
I
think
but
it
was
you
know,
…
they
soon
got
it
under
control
didn’t
they
the Police
…
yeah,
you
know
with
a
sort
of
not
…
its
…
but
for,
the
strange thing
for
me,
it
seemed
like
a
bit
of
a
passing
fad.
Yeah,
they
thought
it’d
be
over
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah,
and
it
kinda
and
it’s
kinda
…
still
around.
Yeah,
it
…
it
was
it
was
good.
It
was
a
the
crossover
as
well
…
you
know,
it’s
into
from
the
band’s,
you
know,
sort
of
guitar
bands
like
the
Stone
Roses,
Happy
Mondays.
All
that
business
it,
there
seemed
to
be
a
crossover
between…
There
was…
you
know
into
dance
music
and
there
was,
was
the
wasn’t
this
divide.
It
was
everybody
was
into
the
same
…
you
know
same
stuff,
you
know,
it
was
the
you
know,
the
Stone
Roses,
and
the
Happy Mondays.
Very
interesting..
Yeah.
There
was a
certain
where
as
one
time
never
the
two
would
meet,
you
know,
they
would
never
you
know,
you
know,
like
as
a
an
indie
sort
of
band
member
you
wouldn’t
…
…
disco
music,
you
know,
type
of
thing
…
or
dance
music.
Ah,
…
I
hated
house
music.
I
can’t
…
…
…
…
…
y’know
that
late
80’s
remember
the
House
Yeah.
Luther
Vandros
and
that
I couldn’t
stand
it
any
of that stuff.
Yeah.
But
that,
this
was
different,
you
know,
and
I
think
it
crossed
over
and
I
think
everybody
y’know
become
just
like
a…
Accepted
it.
Yeah
it
became
a
big thing.
And
there
was
there
was
it
was
a
political
thing
behind
it
as
well.
I
think
I
think
it
was
the
you
know,
I
think
there
was
it
was
basically
like
saying
…
…
…
right,
we’ve
had
enough
of
this
with
no
jobs
with
no
money.
We’re
going
to
make
our
own
entertainment.
You
know,
that
kind
of
thing.
I
think
that’s
what
and
that’s
what
it’ll
be
remembered
as
like
punk
was
and
you
know
do
it
yourself.
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When
did
you
first
hear
about
acid
house
in
Blackburn?
And
how
did
you
get
involved
in?
What’s
your
involvement
in
it?
I’d
never,
…
the
only
thing
I
heard
of
acid
house
was
in
Manchester
going
over
to
the
Boardwalk
one,
one
night
to
watch
some
bands
and
I’d
never
heard
this
music
before
and
then
when
I
suddenly
you
know,
it
…
everything
just
switched
in
one,
it
seemed
to
be
over
one
weekend
from
the
all
the
Indie
music
to
this
acid
house
music
and
I
remember
thinking
…
what
they
actually,
I
remember
the
track
was
that
was
Acieed.
…
…
that
one.
Yeah
in
the
boardwalk
and
I
couldn’t
tell
what
they
were
saying
in
this
this
this
this
song
but
remember
all
these
people
just
getting
up
and
dancing
to
it
and
I’m
thinking
what’s
this
four
to
the
floor,
you
know
sort
of
disco
beat
almost
but
very
very
loud.
Yeah,
because
at
the
time
it
was
just
…
…
well
it was
indie-rock.
Yeah.
…
actually
really
yeah.
I didn’t
realise it
was
going
to
go
on
the
scale
it
did
and
it
was
only
a
matter
of
about
a
month
later
that
I
was
…
I
was
in
Blackburn
and
I
was
at
a
party.
I
was
supposed
to
be
playing
myself
in
in
London,
but
it
would
the gig
had been
cancelled.
And
that
was
for
which
band?
I
can’t
remember
who it
was
I was
supposed
to
be
seeing
now.
…
All
right,
I
thought,
sorry
…
my
band?
…
…
Bitter
Harvest.
Yeah,
we
weren’t.
For some
reason
it’d been
cancelled.
And
I
ended
up
at a
party
up at
Revidge
which
is
on
the
North
side
of
Blackburn.
Yep.
And
we
came
out
of
there
at
about
midnight
this
party.
We
could
hear
this
noise
this
thumping
noise.
And
at the
time
I
lived
up in
Mill
Hill
flats
which
is
sort
of
central
Blackburn
and
there’s
another
story
about
that
remind
me
to
tell
you about
the
flats
when
it,
in
a
minute
and
I
was,
we
…
…
sort
of,
where
is
this
sound
coming
from?
So
we
started
to
walk
towards
it
and
just
we
couldn’t
you
know,
couldn’t
…
…
because
we
…
…
…
we
had
to
drop
right
down
into
Blackburn,
we
…
just
kept
walking
and
walking
until
it was
getting
louder.
And
then
so
we got,
we
got,
we
got
to
our
flat
and
we
still
could
hear
it
and
it
was
getting
louder
as
we
got
nearer.
So
we
just
carried
on
walking
and
I
said
it’s
Tockholes
it’s
up
there.
Something’s
going
on
up
Tockholes
And
so
we
walked
…
…
dunno
how many
miles we
walked that
day,
but
it
was
like
we walked
up
there
and
then
suddenly
you
could
see
everything
was
going,
something
was
going
on.
It
was
literally
the,
this would
be
the
other
side
of
Blackburn.
Yeah.
So
we
walked
from
the
north
to…
well
almost
to
Belmont
almost
which
was
yeah.
…
is
near
Bolton.
And
so
we’d
walked
right
…
right
across
Blackburn
and right
out
the
other
side.
And
then
we
found
what
was
going
on,
you
know
and
then started
seeing
people
and
you
know,
then
…
obviously
…
…
…
…
the
sound
was
getting
louder
and
louder
and
that’s
how
I
discovered
it
when
I
had
no
idea
it
was
happening.
I
don’t
think
nobody,
…
…
well
some
people
must
have
known.
But
it
transpired
that
the
flat
…
that
I
lived
in
in
Griffin
Court
in
Blackburn,
I
lived
in 49
and
the
Kreft
brothers
lived
at
number
50
Now
they
were
supposed,
I
don’t
know if
you
can
use
this
or not…
You
can,
Tony’s
done
an
interview.
oh
has
he,
well
say
hello
for
me
because
I
lived
next
door
to
him.
And
they,
and
…
it
became
clear
over
that
summer
that they
were
prime
movers
in
this
what was
going
on.
Tony and
Dean
was
it?
Dean?
That’s
correct.
Yeah,
and
we
used
to,
I used to
speak
to
em,
I’d go
on
my
balcony
sometime,
and
they
knew
I
was
a
musician
and
you
know,
and
I
knew
they
were
sort
of
in
with
the
Manchester
lot
and
we
just,
…
I’d
just
hop
over
me
balcony
rail
and
go
and
sit
and talk
to
em,
you
know,
and
that
sometimes
and
the
girl
that I
lived
with
…
…
Adriano
Jessica,
I
shared
a
flat
with her
and
she
was
always
complaining
about
the
noise
that they
were
making
but
I
was
quite
into
it.
But
that
was,
that
that
was
it.
That
was
the
irony
of
it, I
actually
lived
next
door
to
em.
Wow,
fantastic.
Yeah,
and
it
took
me
a
while
to,
because
…
…
because
obviously
they
kept
it
quiet
at
the
time,
you
know,
it
was,
they
weren’t
nobody
was
supposed
to
know.
But
that’s
the
first
time
I
became
aware
of
it, I
was
that
night.
And
you
went
to
some
other
do’s
as
well.
Yeah
I went
to
a
couple
ones
where
you
turned
up
at
Red
Parrot.
I
think
it
was.
That’s
right.
And
you
then
you
get
told
where
it
was.
And
I used to
be in
the car,
…
I
wasn’t
driving
but
I’d be in
somebody’s
car,
so
I
just
used
to
end
up
…
…
…
wherever
it
was.
And
what
was
what
what
did
you
what
did
you
actually
think
of
them?
Truthfully?
I
know
you
would
come
…
came
from
a
completely
different
scene.
Yeah,
Well
everybody
came
from
a
completely
different
scene.
It took
me
while,
I
mean,
I
liked
the…
the
music
wasn’t
really
big
on
my
agenda.
But
when
I
got
there
when
there
were
all them
people
together,
I
could
…
I
completely
got
it.
Yeah,
…
…
It
was
like,
it
was
a
togetherness
thing.
It
wasn’t
really
about
the
music.
It
was,
it
was
a
counterculture
I
thought
you
know,
it
had
a
grassroots
of
a
youth
counterculture
and
I
think
it
was
you
know,
I
think
it
was.
Whether
they
liked
it
or
not.
I
mean,
it
split
I
remember
the
next
day
the
Telegraph
on
the
Monday
the
Lancashire
Evening
Telegraph
put
in
the
farmers
…
name
and
phone
number
in
the
paper,
so
they
could
…
phone
him
up
and
complain
about
the
noise
because
it
went
on
till
0.375
on
Sunday
morning.
I
remember
that
and
I
remember
the
Telegraph
printing
the
farmers
phone
number
and
people
my
age
I
would
have
been
21
at
the
time
22
maybe
and
people
my age
were
split
and
some
of
them
were
saying
this
is
disgusting.
You
can’t
do
this,
you
know,
…
…
and we’re
going
…
hang
on
a
minute.
We’re
only
20
thought,
you
know,
we’re
only in
our teens,
what’s
the
problem?
You
know
…
so,
but
…
so
the
music
really
wasn’t
you
know,
my
sort
of
thing.
I
could
never
understand
why
people
would
play
it
at
home.
Dean and
Rob
had
it
on
full
blast
all
the
time
next
door,
you
know,
and
I
thought
that
would,
I
don’t
get
that.
But
I
think
I
got
it
totally
out
in
the
field
or
in
a
warehouse
somewhere
and
everybody’s
together
and
everyone
was
having
a
good
time.
There
were never
any
fighting
or
anything,
that
I
ever
saw,
you
know,
and
it
was
it
was
it
was
just
great.
Just
dancing.
It
was
just
dancing
for
the
sake of
dancing.
It
was
a
counterculture.
I
think
against
what
we
grown
up
with,
which
Thatcherism
if
you
want
to
get
political
about
it,
and all
that
years
and
years
of
just
oppression
really,
not,
but
you
know,
we
had
nothing
did
we
and
we
were
very
dour
weren’t
we,
we all
dressed
in
black
and
you
know
long,
it
went
very
quickly
from
the
long
black
coat
and
the
crew
cuts
to
the,
the
longer
and
the
colorful
clothes
and
the
flares
and
yeah,
it
did,
yeah.
Yeah.
Do you
remember
any bad
side
about
it
apart
from
the
obvious,
you
know
bad
press
and
things
like
that
and
keeping
you
awake
obviously
in
your
flat.
They
didn’t
bother
me
…
because
I
stayed
until
the
end
I
stayed
until
9
o’clock
in
the
morning,
but
it
were
because
you
know,
…
once
we
arrived
there
we
just
stayed
there.
Bad
side
of
it
and
I
didn’t.
I
think
it
was
just
…
people’s
reaction
to
it
that was
the
bad
side
of
it.
The
older
people,
but
again,
it’s
like
a
new
youth
culture
movement.
The
kids
are
doing
something
we
don’t
understand,
oh
heck,
you
know
what
they
doing?
you
know
oh
they
must
be,
they
must
be
taking
drugs?
And
yeah
and
looking
at
it
now,
it
doesn’t
seem
that
shocking
or
outrageous.
But
at
the
time
this
is
the,
this
is
the,
probably
the
hardest
thing
to
understand
…
is
…
…
it
was
as
shocking
as
aliens
landing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well
nobody,
nobody
gave
permission
for
this.
You
know
and
it
was,
about,
I
think
as
…
…
time
went
on
I
think,
you
know,
obviously
but
you
could
say
it’s
a
bad
side
of
it.
Obviously
any
deaths
are,
y’know
too
Horrible,
but
there
were
deaths
and
all
sorts
at
that
time,
and
it
was
you
know
pretty
new
and
you
know,
somebody
was
going
to
cop
for
it
at
one
point.
Even
you
know,
there’s
a
couple
of
deaths
I
think
but
not,
not
in or
around
any
of
the
parties
I
ever
went
to.
Yeah.
You
know,
but
and
I wasn’t,
I
didn’t,
I
never
took
E
and
…
I
just
wasn’t
wasn’t
into
it.
And
I,
you
know,
I
knew
people
who
did.
I think
some
some
people
did
but
not
as
many
as
people
make
out.
No I
mean you
couldn’t get
hold
of
it
for
start
off.
Expensive
time.
Say
this
was
in
in
in
an
archive
and
somebody
was
researching
about
acid
house
at
the
time,
you
know
from,
you
know
100
years
time
looking
back.
Would
you
have
any
message?
What
would
you
say
to
say
to
youngsters
researching
it.
I’d say
like,
you
need
to
do
that
more
often.
It’s
for
me.
I
mean,
I
was
like
yourself
…
lucky
to
grow
up
in
the
time
that
we
did.
We
saw
so
many
different
…
youth
movements
in
our
time.
You
know,
we
had
…
…
the
mod
but
we
hadn’t
been
a
mod
before
that,
…
…
but
you
know,
I
was
sort
of
like
11
12
mod
and
punk
and
obviously
I was
too
young
to
be
a
punk.
But
you
know,
I
was
very
much
on
the
…
back
of
the
Clash,
y’know
it
carried
on.
And
I
think
it
was
the
last
real
movement,
you
know,
counterculture,
grassroots
youth
movement
that
there
was.
And
I
think
you
know,
I
think
it’s
to
be
celebrated
like
anything
else
really.
I
think
it’s
become
a
you
know,
the
time
at the
time
it,
I
think
some
gangsterism
got
involved
to
go
back
to
your
other
point
about
you
know,
I
know,
I
know
things
happened
…
and
you
know,
I
know
I
don’t
know
a
lot
about
that,
but
I
do
know
that
there
were
things
in,
like
any,
like
anything
…
like
the
Hacienda
in
Manchester
got
taken
over
by
…
you
know,
by
the
mafia
and
stuff.
And
it
was
all
that
sort
of
side
of
it.
And
I
know
a
couple
of
people
who
got
messed
up
by
it.
Yeah,
Rob
being
one
of
them
I
think.
I
think
it
was
Rob
that
ended
up going
to Israel
for
a
while
didn’t
he,
to
get,
to
get
himself
clean.
But
I
think
you
know,
there’s
always
there’s
always
going
to
be
casualties
but
I
think
on
the
whole
I
think
when
you
look
if
it
makes,
a
hundred
years
you
look
back
at
it.
I
think
it’s,
it’ll
be
a
very
…
a
brief
period
I
think
but
it
was
you
know,
…
they
soon
got
it
under
control
didn’t
they
the Police
…
yeah,
you
know
with
a
sort
of
not
…
its
…
but
for,
the
strange thing
for
me,
it
seemed
like
a
bit
of
a
passing
fad.
Yeah,
they
thought
it’d
be
over
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah,
and
it
kinda
and
it’s
kinda
…
still
around.
Yeah,
it
…
it
was
it
was
good.
It
was
a
the
crossover
as
well
…
you
know,
it’s
into
from
the
band’s,
you
know,
sort
of
guitar
bands
like
the
Stone
Roses,
Happy
Mondays.
All
that
business
it,
there
seemed
to
be
a
crossover
between…
There
was…
you
know
into
dance
music
and
there
was,
was
the
wasn’t
this
divide.
It
was
everybody
was
into
the
same
…
you
know
same
stuff,
you
know,
it
was
the
you
know,
the
Stone
Roses,
and
the
Happy Mondays.
Very
interesting..
Yeah.
There
was a
certain
where
as
one
time
never
the
two
would
meet,
you
know,
they
would
never
you
know,
you
know,
like
as
a
an
indie
sort
of
band
member
you
wouldn’t
…
…
disco
music,
you
know,
type
of
thing
…
or
dance
music.
Ah,
…
I
hated
house
music.
I
can’t
…
…
…
…
…
y’know
that
late
80’s
remember
the
House
Yeah.
Luther
Vandros
and
that
I couldn’t
stand
it
any
of that stuff.
Yeah.
But
that,
this
was
different,
you
know,
and
I
think
it
crossed
over
and
I
think
everybody
y’know
become
just
like
a…
Accepted
it.
Yeah
it
became
a
big thing.
And
there
was
there
was
it
was
a
political
thing
behind
it
as
well.
I
think
I
think
it
was
the
you
know,
I
think
there
was
it
was
basically
like
saying
…
…
…
right,
we’ve
had
enough
of
this
with
no
jobs
with
no
money.
We’re
going
to
make
our
own
entertainment.
You
know,
that
kind
of
thing.
I
think
that’s
what
and
that’s
what
it’ll
be
remembered
as
like
punk
was
and
you
know
do
it
yourself.
DIY.