Neil Full Interview

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Tell
us
your
part
in
the
Acid
House
parties
and…
and
how
you
got
involved?
Back
in
nine…
early
88
growing
up
in
Blackburn
were
tough
times,
you
know,
politically
it
were
tough
the town
were
drowning
in
poverty…
the
ideology
of
entertainment
and
recreational
lifestyle
it
had
a…
it
had
like
a
time
cap
on
that,
you
know
after
2
o’clock
at
night
everything
were on
lockdown
it were
basically
illegal
to
be
out
at
that
time
and
I
think
growing
up
as…
as
a
youngster
at
that
time,
you
know
heavily
influenced
by
music
brought
up
in
that
kind
of
background…
my
dad
were…
my dad
sung
my dad…
mum
played
piano
and
I were
the
youngest
in
the
family
and
I
had
this
desire
to
share
music
I
suppose
at the
time
and
I
look
back
at
it.
You
know
that…
it
was
a
case of like
how
do
we
do
that?
We were
brought
up
in
you
know,
kind
of
like
a
nightclub…
the
nightclubs
in
this
country
at
this
time were
so
structured,
you
know.
The…
the
racial
tension
an’ the
the
violence…
the
and
that’s
what
happened.
That’s
what
were
going
on
in
Blackburn
at
that
time
It were
quite a
violent
town.
But
you
know it
had
a
really
busy
nightlife.
It
had
about
5
or
6000
people
descending
into
Blackburn
town
centre
every
weekend,
but
at
that
time
I
would
just
remember,
you
know,
going
back
to
the
original
question.
How
did
I
get
involved
in that?
I
think
I
got…
it…
we
got
involved
in
that
because
we’d
had
enough.
We’d
had
enough
of
going
into
this
kind
of
like…
you
know,
the
nightclubs
and
all
commercialism
behind
it
all
and
stuff…
and
all
the
dress
restrictions.
You
weren’t
allowed
to
do
X,Y
and
Z
and
it
was
just
time…
we
met
in
a
pub
called
Vulcan.
The Vulcan
The Vulcan
in
Blackburn,
quite a
famous
pub
it was.
Let’s
just
say
on
the
cultural
level,
you
know
generations
of
people
went
through
that
pub.
And
that’s
where
we
met…
in
there
one
afternoon,
and
there
was
a
about
half a
dozen
of
us.
We
all
had a
similarity.
We’ve
had
enough
and
we wanted
to do
something
ourselves
and
at
that
time
we
weren’t
sure
what
we
wanted
to
do
exactly,
but
we
wanted
to
do
something…
and
we
wanted
to
create
our
own
kind
of
ethos
around
music
and
stuff…
because
like
I
said,
you
know
that….
for
the
last
couple
of
years
really
gotten
that
idea
of
doing
something,
you
know,
we’d
been
in
Manchester
we’d
been
around
the
sound
systems…
absolutely
amazing
times
even
before
the
Blackburn
rave
scene.
And
it…
were kinda
that gathered
up
inspiration
that
collectively
got
a
few
of
us
together
to
make
a
decision
to
put
a
night
on
and
it
was
quite
interesting
at
that
time
because
it
were
like
well
who’s
gonna
do
what
you
know,
there’s
5
or
6
there…
and well
somebody’s
gotta
run
the
door
and
who’s
gonna
and
I was
youngest
out
the
5
of
us…
who’s
going
to
play
the
music
and
it
were
just
like…
hand
it
over
and
it
weren’t
something
that
we
planned
to
do
and
and
there’s
another
guy
Mark
Whittaker
sat
with
with
us
and
he’s
abit
older
than
me…
same
again…
heavily
influenced
by
Universal
Sound
and
that’s
what
we
wanted
to
create…
kinda
a
Kaleidoscope
of
sound.
That’s
always
there…
it’s
nobody
else’s
it
it’s
not
restricted.
It’s
not
under
these
governing
laws,
you
know
where
after
2
o’clock.
everything
wrote
off.
So
I
think
from
that…
that…
that…
that…
day
making
that
decision
you
know,
unaware
….
of
it
at
that
time
what…
it
went
on
to
potentially…
what
happened
potentially
was…
just
slightly
shift…
shifted
the
whole
dynamics
of
the
nightlife
in this
country.
Yeah,
and
just
for
those
of
you
who
don’t
know….
people
who
don’t
know you
listen
to
this…
….
What
did
you
….
what…
your
role
became….
was a
DJ…
It did.
It
did
become
a
DJ
it become
a
guy
putting on
records…
and
which
was
an
amazing
thing
at
the
time
because
you
know,
the
the
transition
of
the
format
music…
what
was
going
on
at
that time…
the
DJ…
It
weren’t
cool.
to
be
a
DJ
back
in
the
day.
It
wasn’t
cool.
It…
only
nerds
become
DJs,
you
know.
And
then
all
of a
sudden
we
created
this
platform
where
everybody
wants
to
be
DJ,
you
know,
and
I
think
that
in
itself,
you
know,
it
was
just
about
the
sound…
the
sound
that
were
being
generated
a
universal
sound
with
no
rules
behind
it,
you
know,
or
what
the…
what the…
It’s not
Pop
Disco
Funk.
It
was
just
about
bringing
the
idea
collectively
together
with
this
new
beat…
kind
of
four-on-the-floor
sound
that
would
penetrate…
penetrating
our
underground
streets,
you
know
in
the
night
life
and
what
that
what
we
did.
It
were
like
some
kind
of
like…
it
was
like
we
created
like
a
cult
if…
if…
that’s
the
right
word.
It’s
just
if…
if…
if…
I
think
back
really
to
those…
that
time
I
mean
after
1990
onwards
there
was
a
lot
of
records
coming
out
for…
for
clubs
and
for
raves
but
before
that
it
was
a
bit…
little
bit
limited
wasn’t
it?
Yeah.
It were…
absolutely
…everything
wer’
limited
…and
this
is
why
I
say…
go
back
to
this
kaleidoscope
of sound
what
was
created
outside
of
commercialism…
outside
of
popular
music
you
know,
so
we’re…
not
only
were
the law
broke about
2
o’clock
that
everybody
started
to…
started
to
begin
to
come
out
at
2
o’clock.
The
music
behind
it
was
also…
alot
….
of
it
was,
you
know,
all
your
big
companies
you
know,
yer’
Sony’s
your
EMI’s
all
them
companies
really….
it
wasn’t
about
them
anymore.
Everything
became
independent.
So
you
sourced
that
track
out
on
a
independent
and…
and
I
think
nobody
really
knew
what
was
on
these…
kind
of…
we
were
buying
labels
that
were
just
white
labels….
nobody
knew
you were
looking
at
the
serial
number
on
the
label
trying
to
identify,
you
know
what
track
it
were…
and
what…
what
company
released
it
and
I
think
that
was
the
beauty
about
it.
Nobody
knew…
but
it
was
about
you
as
an
individual
or
at
your
collective
friends
that…
that
and the
similarities
and the
collective of
that
kind
of
music.
It
was
only
about
the
music
because
there
was
absolutely
there
was
no
interviews
with
the
person…
no
more
posters
on
your
big
pink
bedroom
wall…
It was
just the
music
and
that’s
what’s
incredible
because
it
wasn’t
about
the
DJ
either
it
wasn’t
about
promoter
You
know,
it
wasn’t
about
the
venue.
It
wasn’t
about
your
click
it
was
about
collectively
coming
together
at
that
time.
And
I
think
that
energy
at
that
time…
it
again
it
shape-shifted
not
just
the
music
industry,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
culture
of Britain
it did.
What’s…
what
are
your
best
memories
about
this
time?
When
I
look
back
at
it,
but
what
fascinated
me
and
I
think
that
you
could
have
called
them
best
memories,
but
what
spiritual
experience
did
you
have
a
result
of
being
involved
in
that
stuff…
is
to
see
people
to
come
together
to
see
multicultural
people
coming
together
on
one
dance
floor,
you
know,
and
you
can…
I used
to
look
and
think
this
could
you could just…
flip
a
coin
and this could
turn into
the
most
dangerous
place
because
there
were
people
out
there
that
had
spent
generations
growing
up….
you
know
with
this
kind
of
segregation
in
our
communities,
you
know,
I
lived…
I were
brought
up
in
a
community
where
you wer’
to
watch…
you
know,
there were
pubs
that
people
drunk
in…
there were
pubs
that
I
wasn’t
supposed
to
go
in…
because
everything
were on
lockdown
people
were
hostile.
and
the
racial
tension
was
soaring at an
alarming
rate…
something
had
to
give
or
take…
and
being
able
to
be
part
of
that…
an
instrumental
behind…
is
what
I
remember
as
being
just
stood there
and thinking
look
at
this
place.
Thousands
of
people,
you
know
with
this
kind
of
energy,
you
know
flowing
through
them
and…
no
hostile
energy…
even
it
were
like it
were dispelled.
It
were
gone
and
that
for
me…
I
look
at
that
and
think
wow!
And
I
am
proud
to
be
able
to
say…
to
be
able
to
be sat
here today
and
say…
I
were
part
of..
I
took
part
in
that…
and
to
witness
that,
that’s
the
most
powerful
times.
I’ll
take
this
to
me grave
to be
able
to
witness
everybody
together
for
me.
That’s
what
it
was
about.
I
know
for
a
fact…
my…
you
know…
the
rest
of
the
team
that
were
behind
it
at
that
time.
We
believed
in
that,
you
know,
and
of
course
it
had
a
political
agenda.
What
are
your
bad
memories
about
it?
I
think
the
gangsters.
What
happened
then
having
the…
the
fear
of
gang
I’ll
always
remember
the
local
police
officer
that
for
the
record
idea.
God
bless
you
David.
We
used
to
wait
outside
these
early
raves
and
we’d
come
outside
and
he’d
be
asleep
yer’
man…
you
know,
waiting
for…
for
the
tick
to
swap
over
at
6
o’clock.
We’d
tap
on
side
o’
car…
Alright
now
Dave
you
got
that
guy
spent
what
10
years
chasin’
us
around
but,
you
know
trying
to
get
all
the…
and
obviously
fighting
racial
tension.
This
guy
was
the
community
beat
officer.
He’s
fast
asleep
in
his
car
see?
These
raves
start
to
progress,
you
know,
they’re
growing
into..
getting
bigger….
and
he
pulls
me
in
the
town
centre
one
afternoon.
He
come
over
to
me.
He
said
to
me,
you
know,
what
you’re
doing.
I
have
no
problem
with
that
whatsoever.
He
said
because
I’ve
been
chasing
you
lot
around
this
town
for
years.
He
said…
and
that’s
gone.
It’s
then
that
you
know,
I
have
no
problem
with
it
now
because
you’re
all
under
one
roof.
I
know
where
you
are.
And
obviously
the
problem
you
guys
are
going
to
get
is
when
the
gangsters
move
in from
out
of
town.
That’s
the
concern.
And
and
that
was
at
the
beginning…
he
told
us
that
first
few
months
of
doing
it.
You
need
to
be
careful.
So
obviously
at
the
time
the
police…
then
was
their
concern
was
the
in
the
influx
of
out-of-town
people
coming
in
to
this
town
and
just
taking
it
over…
the
whole
night
life
scene.
And
I
suppose
a
lot
of
people
think
the
gangsters
moved
in
on
us
at
Blackburn
raves.
They
didn’t,
you
know,
they
didn’t
move
in
and
take
over
we
allowed
that
to
happen
because
we
were
being
pressured
off
our
own local
gangsters
from
this area.
So
that’s
the
reason
why
and
I
remember
being
in
a
meeting…
someone
saying…
gangsters?
what’s
all
this
gangster
business?
Oh,
we
don’t
need..
sack
it….
sack
the
Blackburn
raves
We’re
not
doing
it.
It’s
over
wi’
because
we
didn’t
want…
we
weren’t
in it
fer’
that…
so
it’s
all
the
way.
So
in
that
meeting
we
convinced
ourselves
that
we
could
just
turn
it
off
like
turn
the
light
switch
off.
But
then
once
you
realise
you’ve
got
6
7000
people
descending
on
the
dance
floor
and
you
think
you
can
just
switch
it
off.
So
the
noises
from
Manchester
are
the
hierarchy…
if
you
want
to
call
it…
Manchester
wanted
to
know
what
was
going
on….
until
we
said
we
wanted to
stop…
You’re stoppin’
nothing…
These
guys
came
in
where
we
look
back
who’s
gangsters
it.
So
that
was
a
control
thing.
That
was
a
set
thing
to
safeguard
us
guys,
you
know,
so
that
was
the
worst
thing.
Being
bullied
manipulated
playing
your
sounds
on
your
sound
system
thinking
any
minute.
Now
this
firm
gonna
supposedly
coming
in ball’ied
up
and
they’re
going
to
rag
and
tax
all
the lot
of
us.
For
what?
You
know,
so
it
got
dangerous,
you
know,
and
for
the
police.
Well,
that
was
self-explanatory
were
being
surveilled
all
the
way
through
it.
If
somebody
in
a
100
years
time
was
researching
and
looking
into
the
Blackburn
Acid
House
scene…
what
would
you
like
them
to
hear?
I
think
there’s
hearing
and
being
aware
of
what
actually
happened
at
that
time.
The…
the
shape-shift
in
music,
culture
that
was
a
time
to
transition…
of
that
time
coming
out
of
popular
music
into
this
underground
independent
sound
is
what
shape-shifts
music
today.
And
I
think
that
is
what
I
think
is
really
important.
If
you
were
gonna
do
research
back…
into
how
music’s
evolved
over
the
centuries.
I
think
that’s
a
very
important
part
to
research
because
there’s
an
amazing
transition
that
went
down,
and
it
were
beautiful
and
i’m
blissed-out
and
blessed
out
for
being
part
of
that.
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Tell
us
your
part
in
the
Acid
House
parties
and…
and
how
you
got
involved?
Back
in
nine…
early
88
growing
up
in
Blackburn
were
tough
times,
you
know,
politically
it
were
tough
the town
were
drowning
in
poverty…
the
ideology
of
entertainment
and
recreational
lifestyle
it
had
a…
it
had
like
a
time
cap
on
that,
you
know
after
2
o’clock
at
night
everything
were on
lockdown
it were
basically
illegal
to
be
out
at
that
time
and
I
think
growing
up
as…
as
a
youngster
at
that
time,
you
know
heavily
influenced
by
music
brought
up
in
that
kind
of
background…
my
dad
were…
my dad
sung
my dad…
mum
played
piano
and
I were
the
youngest
in
the
family
and
I
had
this
desire
to
share
music
I
suppose
at the
time
and
I
look
back
at
it.
You
know
that…
it
was
a
case of like
how
do
we
do
that?
We were
brought
up
in
you
know,
kind
of
like
a
nightclub…
the
nightclubs
in
this
country
at
this
time were
so
structured,
you
know.
The…
the
racial
tension
an’ the
the
violence…
the
and
that’s
what
happened.
That’s
what
were
going
on
in
Blackburn
at
that
time
It were
quite a
violent
town.
But
you
know it
had
a
really
busy
nightlife.
It
had
about
5
or
6000
people
descending
into
Blackburn
town
centre
every
weekend,
but
at
that
time
I
would
just
remember,
you
know,
going
back
to
the
original
question.
How
did
I
get
involved
in that?
I
think
I
got…
it…
we
got
involved
in
that
because
we’d
had
enough.
We’d
had
enough
of
going
into
this
kind
of
like…
you
know,
the
nightclubs
and
all
commercialism
behind
it
all
and
stuff…
and
all
the
dress
restrictions.
You
weren’t
allowed
to
do
X,Y
and
Z
and
it
was
just
time…
we
met
in
a
pub
called
Vulcan.
The Vulcan
The Vulcan
in
Blackburn,
quite a
famous
pub
it was.
Let’s
just
say
on
the
cultural
level,
you
know
generations
of
people
went
through
that
pub.
And
that’s
where
we
met…
in
there
one
afternoon,
and
there
was
a
about
half a
dozen
of
us.
We
all
had a
similarity.
We’ve
had
enough
and
we wanted
to do
something
ourselves
and
at
that
time
we
weren’t
sure
what
we
wanted
to
do
exactly,
but
we
wanted
to
do
something…
and
we
wanted
to
create
our
own
kind
of
ethos
around
music
and
stuff…
because
like
I
said,
you
know
that….
for
the
last
couple
of
years
really
gotten
that
idea
of
doing
something,
you
know,
we’d
been
in
Manchester
we’d
been
around
the
sound
systems…
absolutely
amazing
times
even
before
the
Blackburn
rave
scene.
And
it…
were kinda
that gathered
up
inspiration
that
collectively
got
a
few
of
us
together
to
make
a
decision
to
put
a
night
on
and
it
was
quite
interesting
at
that
time
because
it
were
like
well
who’s
gonna
do
what
you
know,
there’s
5
or
6
there…
and well
somebody’s
gotta
run
the
door
and
who’s
gonna
and
I was
youngest
out
the
5
of
us…
who’s
going
to
play
the
music
and
it
were
just
like…
hand
it
over
and
it
weren’t
something
that
we
planned
to
do
and
and
there’s
another
guy
Mark
Whittaker
sat
with
with
us
and
he’s
abit
older
than
me…
same
again…
heavily
influenced
by
Universal
Sound
and
that’s
what
we
wanted
to
create…
kinda
a
Kaleidoscope
of
sound.
That’s
always
there…
it’s
nobody
else’s
it
it’s
not
restricted.
It’s
not
under
these
governing
laws,
you
know
where
after
2
o’clock.
everything
wrote
off.
So
I
think
from
that…
that…
that…
that…
day
making
that
decision
you
know,
unaware
….
of
it
at
that
time
what…
it
went
on
to
potentially…
what
happened
potentially
was…
just
slightly
shift…
shifted
the
whole
dynamics
of
the
nightlife
in this
country.
Yeah,
and
just
for
those
of
you
who
don’t
know….
people
who
don’t
know you
listen
to
this…
….
What
did
you
….
what…
your
role
became….
was a
DJ…
It did.
It
did
become
a
DJ
it become
a
guy
putting on
records…
and
which
was
an
amazing
thing
at
the
time
because
you
know,
the
the
transition
of
the
format
music…
what
was
going
on
at
that time…
the
DJ…
It
weren’t
cool.
to
be
a
DJ
back
in
the
day.
It
wasn’t
cool.
It…
only
nerds
become
DJs,
you
know.
And
then
all
of a
sudden
we
created
this
platform
where
everybody
wants
to
be
DJ,
you
know,
and
I
think
that
in
itself,
you
know,
it
was
just
about
the
sound…
the
sound
that
were
being
generated
a
universal
sound
with
no
rules
behind
it,
you
know,
or
what
the…
what the…
It’s not
Pop
Disco
Funk.
It
was
just
about
bringing
the
idea
collectively
together
with
this
new
beat…
kind
of
four-on-the-floor
sound
that
would
penetrate…
penetrating
our
underground
streets,
you
know
in
the
night
life
and
what
that
what
we
did.
It
were
like
some
kind
of
like…
it
was
like
we
created
like
a
cult
if…
if…
that’s
the
right
word.
It’s
just
if…
if…
if…
I
think
back
really
to
those…
that
time
I
mean
after
1990
onwards
there
was
a
lot
of
records
coming
out
for…
for
clubs
and
for
raves
but
before
that
it
was
a
bit…
little
bit
limited
wasn’t
it?
Yeah.
It were…
absolutely
…everything
wer’
limited
…and
this
is
why
I
say…
go
back
to
this
kaleidoscope
of sound
what
was
created
outside
of
commercialism…
outside
of
popular
music
you
know,
so
we’re…
not
only
were
the law
broke about
2
o’clock
that
everybody
started
to…
started
to
begin
to
come
out
at
2
o’clock.
The
music
behind
it
was
also…
alot
….
of
it
was,
you
know,
all
your
big
companies
you
know,
yer’
Sony’s
your
EMI’s
all
them
companies
really….
it
wasn’t
about
them
anymore.
Everything
became
independent.
So
you
sourced
that
track
out
on
a
independent
and…
and
I
think
nobody
really
knew
what
was
on
these…
kind
of…
we
were
buying
labels
that
were
just
white
labels….
nobody
knew
you were
looking
at
the
serial
number
on
the
label
trying
to
identify,
you
know
what
track
it
were…
and
what…
what
company
released
it
and
I
think
that
was
the
beauty
about
it.
Nobody
knew…
but
it
was
about
you
as
an
individual
or
at
your
collective
friends
that…
that
and the
similarities
and the
collective of
that
kind
of
music.
It
was
only
about
the
music
because
there
was
absolutely
there
was
no
interviews
with
the
person…
no
more
posters
on
your
big
pink
bedroom
wall…
It was
just the
music
and
that’s
what’s
incredible
because
it
wasn’t
about
the
DJ
either
it
wasn’t
about
promoter
You
know,
it
wasn’t
about
the
venue.
It
wasn’t
about
your
click
it
was
about
collectively
coming
together
at
that
time.
And
I
think
that
energy
at
that
time…
it
again
it
shape-shifted
not
just
the
music
industry,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
culture
of Britain
it did.
What’s…
what
are
your
best
memories
about
this
time?
When
I
look
back
at
it,
but
what
fascinated
me
and
I
think
that
you
could
have
called
them
best
memories,
but
what
spiritual
experience
did
you
have
a
result
of
being
involved
in
that
stuff…
is
to
see
people
to
come
together
to
see
multicultural
people
coming
together
on
one
dance
floor,
you
know,
and
you
can…
I used
to
look
and
think
this
could
you could just…
flip
a
coin
and this could
turn into
the
most
dangerous
place
because
there
were
people
out
there
that
had
spent
generations
growing
up….
you
know
with
this
kind
of
segregation
in
our
communities,
you
know,
I
lived…
I were
brought
up
in
a
community
where
you wer’
to
watch…
you
know,
there were
pubs
that
people
drunk
in…
there were
pubs
that
I
wasn’t
supposed
to
go
in…
because
everything
were on
lockdown
people
were
hostile.
and
the
racial
tension
was
soaring at an
alarming
rate…
something
had
to
give
or
take…
and
being
able
to
be
part
of
that…
an
instrumental
behind…
is
what
I
remember
as
being
just
stood there
and thinking
look
at
this
place.
Thousands
of
people,
you
know
with
this
kind
of
energy,
you
know
flowing
through
them
and…
no
hostile
energy…
even
it
were
like it
were dispelled.
It
were
gone
and
that
for
me…
I
look
at
that
and
think
wow!
And
I
am
proud
to
be
able
to
say…
to
be
able
to
be sat
here today
and
say…
I
were
part
of..
I
took
part
in
that…
and
to
witness
that,
that’s
the
most
powerful
times.
I’ll
take
this
to
me grave
to be
able
to
witness
everybody
together
for
me.
That’s
what
it
was
about.
I
know
for
a
fact…
my…
you
know…
the
rest
of
the
team
that
were
behind
it
at
that
time.
We
believed
in
that,
you
know,
and
of
course
it
had
a
political
agenda.
What
are
your
bad
memories
about
it?
I
think
the
gangsters.
What
happened
then
having
the…
the
fear
of
gang
I’ll
always
remember
the
local
police
officer
that
for
the
record
idea.
God
bless
you
David.
We
used
to
wait
outside
these
early
raves
and
we’d
come
outside
and
he’d
be
asleep
yer’
man…
you
know,
waiting
for…
for
the
tick
to
swap
over
at
6
o’clock.
We’d
tap
on
side
o’
car…
Alright
now
Dave
you
got
that
guy
spent
what
10
years
chasin’
us
around
but,
you
know
trying
to
get
all
the…
and
obviously
fighting
racial
tension.
This
guy
was
the
community
beat
officer.
He’s
fast
asleep
in
his
car
see?
These
raves
start
to
progress,
you
know,
they’re
growing
into..
getting
bigger….
and
he
pulls
me
in
the
town
centre
one
afternoon.
He
come
over
to
me.
He
said
to
me,
you
know,
what
you’re
doing.
I
have
no
problem
with
that
whatsoever.
He
said
because
I’ve
been
chasing
you
lot
around
this
town
for
years.
He
said…
and
that’s
gone.
It’s
then
that
you
know,
I
have
no
problem
with
it
now
because
you’re
all
under
one
roof.
I
know
where
you
are.
And
obviously
the
problem
you
guys
are
going
to
get
is
when
the
gangsters
move
in from
out
of
town.
That’s
the
concern.
And
and
that
was
at
the
beginning…
he
told
us
that
first
few
months
of
doing
it.
You
need
to
be
careful.
So
obviously
at
the
time
the
police…
then
was
their
concern
was
the
in
the
influx
of
out-of-town
people
coming
in
to
this
town
and
just
taking
it
over…
the
whole
night
life
scene.
And
I
suppose
a
lot
of
people
think
the
gangsters
moved
in
on
us
at
Blackburn
raves.
They
didn’t,
you
know,
they
didn’t
move
in
and
take
over
we
allowed
that
to
happen
because
we
were
being
pressured
off
our
own local
gangsters
from
this area.
So
that’s
the
reason
why
and
I
remember
being
in
a
meeting…
someone
saying…
gangsters?
what’s
all
this
gangster
business?
Oh,
we
don’t
need..
sack
it….
sack
the
Blackburn
raves
We’re
not
doing
it.
It’s
over
wi’
because
we
didn’t
want…
we
weren’t
in it
fer’
that…
so
it’s
all
the
way.
So
in
that
meeting
we
convinced
ourselves
that
we
could
just
turn
it
off
like
turn
the
light
switch
off.
But
then
once
you
realise
you’ve
got
6
7000
people
descending
on
the
dance
floor
and
you
think
you
can
just
switch
it
off.
So
the
noises
from
Manchester
are
the
hierarchy…
if
you
want
to
call
it…
Manchester
wanted
to
know
what
was
going
on….
until
we
said
we
wanted to
stop…
You’re stoppin’
nothing…
These
guys
came
in
where
we
look
back
who’s
gangsters
it.
So
that
was
a
control
thing.
That
was
a
set
thing
to
safeguard
us
guys,
you
know,
so
that
was
the
worst
thing.
Being
bullied
manipulated
playing
your
sounds
on
your
sound
system
thinking
any
minute.
Now
this
firm
gonna
supposedly
coming
in ball’ied
up
and
they’re
going
to
rag
and
tax
all
the lot
of
us.
For
what?
You
know,
so
it
got
dangerous,
you
know,
and
for
the
police.
Well,
that
was
self-explanatory
were
being
surveilled
all
the
way
through
it.
If
somebody
in
a
100
years
time
was
researching
and
looking
into
the
Blackburn
Acid
House
scene…
what
would
you
like
them
to
hear?
I
think
there’s
hearing
and
being
aware
of
what
actually
happened
at
that
time.
The…
the
shape-shift
in
music,
culture
that
was
a
time
to
transition…
of
that
time
coming
out
of
popular
music
into
this
underground
independent
sound
is
what
shape-shifts
music
today.
And
I
think
that
is
what
I
think
is
really
important.
If
you
were
gonna
do
research
back…
into
how
music’s
evolved
over
the
centuries.
I
think
that’s
a
very
important
part
to
research
because
there’s
an
amazing
transition
that
went
down,
and
it
were
beautiful
and
i’m
blissed-out
and
blessed
out
for
being
part
of
that.