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How
did
you
get
involved?
Well,
I’d
always
been
interested
in
electronic
music.
I
was
a
breakdancer
so
…
you
know,
I’m
from
that
generation,
I
was
a
breakdancer
when
I
was
a
kid,
…
you
know,
listen
to
street
sounds
stuff
and
synthersizers
and
then
obviously
New
Order
came
along
and
then
most
of
my
teens
I
spent
as
an
Indie kid
basically,
I
was
into
Indie
music
like
you.
And
then
I’d
heard
about,
I’ve
got
older
cousins
and
…
older
friends.
I
always
hung
around
with
older
lads
…
so
I’ve
heard
off
loads
of
people
that
there were
these
do’s
going
on
up
at
the
Sett
End.
And
obviously
it’s
the
80s
my
parents
had
like,
you
know,
the
crap
Amstrad
stacker
systems
with
a
glass
door
on
the
front.
And
me
mate
come
round
one
day.
…
he
had
a
few
years
on
me
and
he
said
Mark
listen
to
this,
and
he
put
this
this
tune
on.
Farley
Jackmaster
Funk,
…
I
need
a
friend.
And
me
jaw
just
hit
the
floor
and
I
thought
wow,
this
is
wow,
this
is
another
level.
You
know,
it’s
like
wtf.
So
I
said,
yeah,
I’ll
come.
So,
anyway
it
took
me.
I’d
go
like
once
a
fortnight
I had
a
milk
round.
So
anyway.
We
went
up
the
Sett
End.
I
walked
in
through
the
door
and
I
just
couldn’t
believe
my
eyes,
it
were,
I
was
expecting
a
disco
and
it
was
almost
like,
like
a
congregation.
Everybody
worshipping
this
stage,
you
know
all
dancing
in
in
a
similar
fashion
like
worshipping
…
this
stage.
There’s
strobe
lights
going
off.
It
was
thick
with
smoke
machine
white
smoke.
I
lost
my
mates
in
2
seconds
you couldn’t
see
anybody,
all’s
you
could
see
is this
white
flashing
and
this,
you
know,
the
squelching
303’s.
303’s.
303’s.
So
yeah,
that
was
it
my
fashion
sense
changed
overnight,
like
it
does
when
you’re
a
kid.
I
started
dressing
like
a
Christmas
tree.
Y’know
it
was
out
with
the
torn
Levi’s
…
and
the
you
know,
batik
jacket.
In
fact,
I
can
even
remember
having
me
interview
done
with
Pat
Griffiths
at
Blackburn
college
for
the,
for
the
b-tech
with
…
a
batik
jacket
on.
I
didn’t
know
what
it
was
and Pat
says,
I
love
that
batik
jacket,
you
know
anyway,
so
so
yeah,
so
so
I
started
going
every
…
every
penny
I
got
was
spent
on
the
weekend.
So
and
then
it
got,
got
to
if
you
know
if
it
were
Christmas
and
birthdays
and
my
mum
would
give
me
some
money,
I
had
extra
money.
I’d
go
up,
you
know
as
much
as
I
could
and
you
know,
I
made
new
friends
up
there,
groups
of
lads,
and
I
started
hanging
around
we
a
lot
of
lads
from
Intack
And
like
I
said,
they
were
all
older
than
me
and
there
was
one
particular
occasion
where
Glenn
our
driver,
obviously
I
was
15
I
weren’t
old
enough
to
drive.
He’d
parked,
it had
started going
mental
at
first
the
Sett
End,
there
was
just
a
few
hundred
in
there
and
you
know,
maybe
20
outside
because
it
were
full,
you
know,
we
couldn’t
get
in
and
then
I
noticed
over
the
months
through
late
88
going
through
89
that
the
queues
were
just
getting
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger
every
week
until
I
can
remember
Shad
Road
being
completely
…
gridlocked.
Most
of
the
industrial
estate
at
Shad,
the
front
of
Shad
School.
The
grass
verge
is
all
the
way
down
to
intact
lights
were
gridlocked,
there were
cars
parked
on
the
grass
at
the
side
of
the
road
in
people’s
gardens,
in
people’s
driveways.
It
had
just
gone
mental.
Anyway,
this,
so
every
week
became
chasing
the
rave
you
know,
we’d
just
we’d
go
up
Sett End,
try
and
find
out
on
the
grapevine
where
the
rave was
happening
and
then,
and
then
follow,
you
know,
follow
the
convoys
to
where
it
was.
A
few
times
we
just
made
it
to
the
raves in
the
convoys
but
this
one
particular
week
my
friend
Glenn,
who
was
driving
got
a
tip-off
that
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
too.
We’d,
he’d
parked
wisely
parked
and
obviously
we
were
local
lads.
…
He’d
parked
in
the
Shad
Estate
and
he
come
running
over
over
to
us
about
half
past
1
…
And
he
said
I
know
where
it
is,
I know
where
it is,
come
on
lets
go.
…
So
we
rounded
the
troops
up
like
and
just
legged
it
out
the
door,
…
legged
it
to
the
car
…
drove
through
Shad
Estate
and
as
we
pulled
out at
Intack
and
well
drove
through
Shad
Estate
and
down
through
…
…
and
as
we
pulled
out at
Intack
lights
we
could
see
all
the
convoy
coming
down
the
hill.
So
we’re
you
know,
…
I’m
with this
15
year
old
kid
going
…
Wow.
This
is
…
This
is
our
moment.
We
were
at
the
front,
you
know,
so
an
all’s
you
could
hear,
you
could
see
headlights
like
these
tail
headlights
and
like
horns
reverberating
all
the
way
up
Shad.
Anyway,
we
turn,
we
turned
up
there
with,
we
were
the
first
there.
He had
quite
a
nice
car
did
my
mate
Glenn.
We
were
the
first
there.
So
we’re
just
hanging
around
outside
smoking
and
you
know
being
dicks
like
15
year
old
kids
are.
Big
black
Merc
box
van
screeches
up
like
the
predecessor
to
the
sprinter,
you
know
big
long
wheelbase
double
wheel
sprinter
comes
out,
window
winds
down.
Kick
that
door
in
lads.
So
there’s
five
of
us
all
wanting
to
be
the
hero,
tekin’
runs
at
this
door,
doing
flying
kicks
bumf
bumf,
one
after
the
other,
you
know,
and
then
I
think
by
the
fifth
time,
my
mate
Dave,
we’d
weakened
the
door.
…
He
did
a
flying
kick
at
it,
Boom
the
door
sprung
open
and
he
went
straight
through
it
and
landed
on
his
arse.
…
And
then,
and
then
the,
the
lads
with
the
sound
system
and
the
decks
are
just
like
shouldering
us
like
right
get
out
way
now
lads,
you
know
they’re
bringing
you
know
all’ gear
in,
and so
that
was
the
first
rave
…
I
went
to
that
I
didn’t
have
to
pay
for
and
we
were
the
first
in
there
and
it’s
just
like
I’ll
never
forget
it.
You
know,
it’s
one
of
those
just
one
of
those
nights
where
you
know,
we’re
the
heroes
here
you
you
know
and
yeah,
but,
but
the
whole
thing
was
just
mad
and
I’ve
spoken
to
Tommy
about
saying
I
think
we
probably
me
and
a
couple
of me
mates
had
probably
held
the
record
for
being
the
youngest
in
there.
And
he
said
no
no,
there
were
13
year
old
girls
at
the
bar
which
is
a
bit
weird
one
time
until
people
discovered
their
age,
you
know,
so
that’s
you
know,
that’s
the dark
side
to
it.
But
but
yeah,
they
were
just
great
times
and
I
lived
so
local
to
it
as
well.
Because
I
weren’t
driving
I
lived
at
Stanhill,
in
Ossy,
so
it’s
like
a
mile
and
a
half
walk
just
over
the
tops,
you
know.
Like…
Where
was
this
one
where
you were
kicking
the
door
in?
It was
Glenfield
part
2,
it
was
the
second
Glenfield,
the
first
one
I
missed,
it
was
a
week
where
I
couldn’t
afford
to
go
out
which
I’m
gutted
about
really
because
that
sounded
like
the
exciting
one
that
that’s
the
one
with
the
cop
car
got
turned
over
and
set
on
fire
and
what
the
policeman
was
talking
about
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
on
both
sides
of
the
dual
carriageway
are
coming
toward
them.
…
But
no
it
was
the
second
Glenfield
part
2
I
went
to.
Yeah
I’m confusing
Glenfield
Park,
we’ll
talk
about
later.
Yeah,
it’s
…
…
…
You’ve
got
really
good
memories.
And
share
some
more,
but
are
there
dark
memories
from
around
that
time?
At
that
time.
No,
it
felt,
it
felt
like
we
were
involved
in
a
revolution.
It
really
did
even
though
it
was
this
just
in
this
one
small
Northern
Town.
It
did
feel
like
we’re
going
to
take
over.
The
Police
just
couldn’t
deal
with
it.
They
couldn’t
handle
it
and
we
just
yeah
just
felt
revolutionary,
But
I’d
say
…
…
the
dark
bit
happened
later.
…
Obviously
the
Sett
End
closed
down.
And
then
they
started
trying
to
get
it
going
at
the
Yuticks
Nest.
So
we
were
hanging
around
there
a
lot
and
nothing,
there
were
like
a
little
spell
where
nothing
seemed
to
happen.
And
I
think
at
this
stage
as
well,
the
queues
had
gone
mad
as
well.
So
you
Yewticks Nest
were
virtually
impossible
to
get
in.
Well
by
the
time
that
happened,
…
…
but
I’d
say
it
started
getting
ugly
when
Monroes,
…
when
it
moved
to
Monroes
Because
obviously
the,
you
know,
the
drug
wars
and
everything
that
happened
there
and
you
know,
the
doormen
wanting
to
take
control
of
what
happened
and
I
think
there
was
even
a
gun
pulled
at
Monroes
…
at
one
point
and
and
it
felt
you
know,
you
were
scared
going
there.
…
The
first
I’d
say
the
first
few
months
going
up
Monroes
were
great,
you
know,
used
to
make
me
laugh
that
there
was
no
alcohol
license
there,
you
know,
it’s
a
nightclub
with
a
massive
bar
and
there’s
no
alcohol
license.
But
yeah,
it
just
started
getting
ugly
and
I
think
I
think
like
you
said
before
it
just
it
just
it
did
just
stop
in
the
end.
But
then
for
me
it,
you
know,
it’d
lost,
…
I
always
…
I
wanted
to
be
into
the
next
big
thing
constantly
as
well.
So
between
me
and
my
friends,
it
had
lost
its
trendiness,
you
know
what
I
mean
by
that
point
as
well
and,
and
it
just
became
full
of
d*** heads
and
violence,
you
know,
so
we
thought
right,
we’ll
we’ll
get
into
the
next
thing
we’ll
find
what
the
next
thing
is
and
get
into
that.
So
yeah,
I
wouldn’t
say
that.
Yeah,
obviously
there’s
the
underaged
element
to
it.
Obviously
like
me
being
in
there
at
15
year
old,
you
know
me Mum
had
no
idea
what
I were
doing.
She
thought
I’d
gone
to
a disco.
You
know,
and
then
obviously
when
they
trapped
us
all
in
Blackburn
Town
Centre
on
Darwen
Street
where
the
Minstrels
used
to
be,
they
boxed
us
in
…
I
can
remember
it
being
shoulder
to
shoulder
on
that
crossroads.
It
might
even
have
been
Tommy,
there
was,
I
remember
a lad
stood
on
a
car
roof
going
nobody
run.
Nobody
run.
They
started
letting
dogs
go,
one
or
two
cops,
let
dogs,
you
know
the
dogs
bark
they
let
dogs
go
on’
crowd
and
I
can
remember
mounted
Police
in
a
crowd
like
tryin’a
round
everybody
up
in’
middle
of
that,
that
were,
that were an
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
the,
the
…
the
overall
memory
of
it
is
just
this
revolutionary
punk
spirit
you
know,
it’s
like
the
youths
are
tekin
it,
you
know,
we’re
tekin
it
and
we’re,
it’s
ours,
we’re
havin
it,
you
know.
Yeah
great
days.
And
what
happened
to you
after,
you
mentioned
you
had
an interview
at
art
school?
What
what
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
I
think
I
was
still
going
to
the
…
think
like
I
said,
I
was
still
going
to,
you see
this,
this
is
where
I
get
me
dates
mixed
up,
…
I
think
by
the
end
of
Art
School
I’d
kinda
got,
…
totally
fell
out
with
it,
you
know,
maybe
at
the
beginning
maybe
the
first
year
on
the
that
b-tech,
I’d
fallen
out
with
it.
And
then
yeah,
I
went
to,
it
was
still
going
on
though.
Were
still
going
on
there
were still
big
raves
going
on
and
I
can
remember
going
I
went
to
do
film
and
…
…
television
design
at
Farnborough.
I
wasn’t
a very
focused
Art
student
so
I
didn’t
get
in
on
the
degree
course
I
wanted.
…
You
know,
if
I’m
going
out
every
weekend
doing
that
it’s
not
surprising,
…
you
know,
you
know,
as
you
know,
Sally
said
I
said,
I
do
remember
you
from
Art
School
but
you
were
never
there.
And
then
yeh so
I
went
doing
film
and
television
design
down
South
and
you
know,
I
think
I’d
been
there
about
6
months
and
me mates
are ringing
me
up
again.
There’s
massive
raves
going
off
again.
There’s,
there
were
like
…
20000
people
last
week,
you
know
bla di
blah.
Yeah
so
I just
thought
f*** it
I’m
going
home.
So
I
just sacked
me
course
off.
And
went
home,
…
and
me
mum
was
not
happy
about
it.
But
yeah
talking
about
the
numbers
going
mad.
This
is
I
can’t
remember
clearly
whether
it
was
after
the
Sett
End
or
after
Monroes.
But
there
was
a
part,
…
it
was
the
biggest
numbers
I’ve
ever
seen.
I
think
they
were
estimated.
15000
in
a
Royal,
Royal
Mail
Warehouse
that
had
just
been
built,
just
just
been
completed,
in
fact,
I
don’t
think
they’d
finished
the
concrete
on
one
corner
of the
section
of
the
floor
and
there
was
still
a
JCB
in
the
middle
of
the
building
which
we
were
dancing
on
and
I
can
I
think
they
were
like
15000
in
the
building
and
10000
…
and
10000
outside
still
trying
to
get
in
and
it
was
it
was
just
a
mental.
It
just
went
mad,
you
know,
but
yeah,
that’s
there
was
another
ugly
side
there
as
Well,
…
obviously
they
…
they
were
charging
as
you
go
in
you’re
paying
your
money.
Obviously,
there’s
gangs
of
lads
coming
from
every
city
all
over’
North.
…
So
there
was
a
gang
of
lads
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
up,
like
jacking
them
all
up
…
and
as
they
got
them
about
that
high
there
were
people
who
starting…
this
roller
shutters
like
the
length
of
this
straight,
you
know,
and
the
people
start
pouring
underneath
it
crawling
and
as
they
were
doing
as
they
were
doing
it.
There
were
lads
in
SAS
masks,
balaclavas,
we
baseball
bats
cracking
their
knuckles
they
were
getting
cracked,
you
know
as
they
got
in.
…
…
Some
of
em
got
in
and
escaped
into
the
crowd,
but
they
were
like
cracking
people
as
they
were
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutter
back
down.
…
…
And
so
yeah
that
was
another
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
if
they
were
it,
it
were great.
Apart
from,
you
know
apart
from
those
instances.
There’s
gunna
be a
kid
round
here
doing
what
me
and
you’ve
done
a
lot
of
which
is
looking
at
the
local
history
and
this
is
now
30
years
old.
In
another
100
years
…
…
Yeah.
There’s
going
to
be
a
kid,
a
researcher
or
someone
fitting
all
of
this
together
and
all
of
your
stories
you’re
going
to
you’re
going
to
tell
them,
they’re
gunna
be
delighted
to
hear
this.
What
one
thing
would
you
say
to
a
kid
in
Blackburn
in
100
years
time
about
that
time?
Enjoy
looking
back
at
this
but
always
look
forward
and
always
think
progressively.
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How
did
you
get
involved?
Well,
I’d
always
been
interested
in
electronic
music.
I
was
a
breakdancer
so
…
you
know,
I’m
from
that
generation,
I
was
a
breakdancer
when
I
was
a
kid,
…
you
know,
listen
to
street
sounds
stuff
and
synthersizers
and
then
obviously
New
Order
came
along
and
then
most
of
my
teens
I
spent
as
an
Indie kid
basically,
I
was
into
Indie
music
like
you.
And
then
I’d
heard
about,
I’ve
got
older
cousins
and
…
older
friends.
I
always
hung
around
with
older
lads
…
so
I’ve
heard
off
loads
of
people
that
there were
these
do’s
going
on
up
at
the
Sett
End.
And
obviously
it’s
the
80s
my
parents
had
like,
you
know,
the
crap
Amstrad
stacker
systems
with
a
glass
door
on
the
front.
And
me
mate
come
round
one
day.
…
he
had
a
few
years
on
me
and
he
said
Mark
listen
to
this,
and
he
put
this
this
tune
on.
Farley
Jackmaster
Funk,
…
I
need
a
friend.
And
me
jaw
just
hit
the
floor
and
I
thought
wow,
this
is
wow,
this
is
another
level.
You
know,
it’s
like
wtf.
So
I
said,
yeah,
I’ll
come.
So,
anyway
it
took
me.
I’d
go
like
once
a
fortnight
I had
a
milk
round.
So
anyway.
We
went
up
the
Sett
End.
I
walked
in
through
the
door
and
I
just
couldn’t
believe
my
eyes,
it
were,
I
was
expecting
a
disco
and
it
was
almost
like,
like
a
congregation.
Everybody
worshipping
this
stage,
you
know
all
dancing
in
in
a
similar
fashion
like
worshipping
…
this
stage.
There’s
strobe
lights
going
off.
It
was
thick
with
smoke
machine
white
smoke.
I
lost
my
mates
in
2
seconds
you couldn’t
see
anybody,
all’s
you
could
see
is this
white
flashing
and
this,
you
know,
the
squelching
303’s.
303’s.
303’s.
So
yeah,
that
was
it
my
fashion
sense
changed
overnight,
like
it
does
when
you’re
a
kid.
I
started
dressing
like
a
Christmas
tree.
Y’know
it
was
out
with
the
torn
Levi’s
…
and
the
you
know,
batik
jacket.
In
fact,
I
can
even
remember
having
me
interview
done
with
Pat
Griffiths
at
Blackburn
college
for
the,
for
the
b-tech
with
…
a
batik
jacket
on.
I
didn’t
know
what
it
was
and Pat
says,
I
love
that
batik
jacket,
you
know
anyway,
so
so
yeah,
so
so
I
started
going
every
…
every
penny
I
got
was
spent
on
the
weekend.
So
and
then
it
got,
got
to
if
you
know
if
it
were
Christmas
and
birthdays
and
my
mum
would
give
me
some
money,
I
had
extra
money.
I’d
go
up,
you
know
as
much
as
I
could
and
you
know,
I
made
new
friends
up
there,
groups
of
lads,
and
I
started
hanging
around
we
a
lot
of
lads
from
Intack
And
like
I
said,
they
were
all
older
than
me
and
there
was
one
particular
occasion
where
Glenn
our
driver,
obviously
I
was
15
I
weren’t
old
enough
to
drive.
He’d
parked,
it had
started going
mental
at
first
the
Sett
End,
there
was
just
a
few
hundred
in
there
and
you
know,
maybe
20
outside
because
it
were
full,
you
know,
we
couldn’t
get
in
and
then
I
noticed
over
the
months
through
late
88
going
through
89
that
the
queues
were
just
getting
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger
every
week
until
I
can
remember
Shad
Road
being
completely
…
gridlocked.
Most
of
the
industrial
estate
at
Shad,
the
front
of
Shad
School.
The
grass
verge
is
all
the
way
down
to
intact
lights
were
gridlocked,
there were
cars
parked
on
the
grass
at
the
side
of
the
road
in
people’s
gardens,
in
people’s
driveways.
It
had
just
gone
mental.
Anyway,
this,
so
every
week
became
chasing
the
rave
you
know,
we’d
just
we’d
go
up
Sett End,
try
and
find
out
on
the
grapevine
where
the
rave was
happening
and
then,
and
then
follow,
you
know,
follow
the
convoys
to
where
it
was.
A
few
times
we
just
made
it
to
the
raves in
the
convoys
but
this
one
particular
week
my
friend
Glenn,
who
was
driving
got
a
tip-off
that
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
too.
We’d,
he’d
parked
wisely
parked
and
obviously
we
were
local
lads.
…
He’d
parked
in
the
Shad
Estate
and
he
come
running
over
over
to
us
about
half
past
1
…
And
he
said
I
know
where
it
is,
I know
where
it is,
come
on
lets
go.
…
So
we
rounded
the
troops
up
like
and
just
legged
it
out
the
door,
…
legged
it
to
the
car
…
drove
through
Shad
Estate
and
as
we
pulled
out at
Intack
and
well
drove
through
Shad
Estate
and
down
through
…
…
and
as
we
pulled
out at
Intack
lights
we
could
see
all
the
convoy
coming
down
the
hill.
So
we’re
you
know,
…
I’m
with this
15
year
old
kid
going
…
Wow.
This
is
…
This
is
our
moment.
We
were
at
the
front,
you
know,
so
an
all’s
you
could
hear,
you
could
see
headlights
like
these
tail
headlights
and
like
horns
reverberating
all
the
way
up
Shad.
Anyway,
we
turn,
we
turned
up
there
with,
we
were
the
first
there.
He had
quite
a
nice
car
did
my
mate
Glenn.
We
were
the
first
there.
So
we’re
just
hanging
around
outside
smoking
and
you
know
being
dicks
like
15
year
old
kids
are.
Big
black
Merc
box
van
screeches
up
like
the
predecessor
to
the
sprinter,
you
know
big
long
wheelbase
double
wheel
sprinter
comes
out,
window
winds
down.
Kick
that
door
in
lads.
So
there’s
five
of
us
all
wanting
to
be
the
hero,
tekin’
runs
at
this
door,
doing
flying
kicks
bumf
bumf,
one
after
the
other,
you
know,
and
then
I
think
by
the
fifth
time,
my
mate
Dave,
we’d
weakened
the
door.
…
He
did
a
flying
kick
at
it,
Boom
the
door
sprung
open
and
he
went
straight
through
it
and
landed
on
his
arse.
…
And
then,
and
then
the,
the
lads
with
the
sound
system
and
the
decks
are
just
like
shouldering
us
like
right
get
out
way
now
lads,
you
know
they’re
bringing
you
know
all’ gear
in,
and so
that
was
the
first
rave
…
I
went
to
that
I
didn’t
have
to
pay
for
and
we
were
the
first
in
there
and
it’s
just
like
I’ll
never
forget
it.
You
know,
it’s
one
of
those
just
one
of
those
nights
where
you
know,
we’re
the
heroes
here
you
you
know
and
yeah,
but,
but
the
whole
thing
was
just
mad
and
I’ve
spoken
to
Tommy
about
saying
I
think
we
probably
me
and
a
couple
of me
mates
had
probably
held
the
record
for
being
the
youngest
in
there.
And
he
said
no
no,
there
were
13
year
old
girls
at
the
bar
which
is
a
bit
weird
one
time
until
people
discovered
their
age,
you
know,
so
that’s
you
know,
that’s
the dark
side
to
it.
But
but
yeah,
they
were
just
great
times
and
I
lived
so
local
to
it
as
well.
Because
I
weren’t
driving
I
lived
at
Stanhill,
in
Ossy,
so
it’s
like
a
mile
and
a
half
walk
just
over
the
tops,
you
know.
Like…
Where
was
this
one
where
you were
kicking
the
door
in?
It was
Glenfield
part
2,
it
was
the
second
Glenfield,
the
first
one
I
missed,
it
was
a
week
where
I
couldn’t
afford
to
go
out
which
I’m
gutted
about
really
because
that
sounded
like
the
exciting
one
that
that’s
the
one
with
the
cop
car
got
turned
over
and
set
on
fire
and
what
the
policeman
was
talking
about
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
on
both
sides
of
the
dual
carriageway
are
coming
toward
them.
…
But
no
it
was
the
second
Glenfield
part
2
I
went
to.
Yeah
I’m confusing
Glenfield
Park,
we’ll
talk
about
later.
Yeah,
it’s
…
…
…
You’ve
got
really
good
memories.
And
share
some
more,
but
are
there
dark
memories
from
around
that
time?
At
that
time.
No,
it
felt,
it
felt
like
we
were
involved
in
a
revolution.
It
really
did
even
though
it
was
this
just
in
this
one
small
Northern
Town.
It
did
feel
like
we’re
going
to
take
over.
The
Police
just
couldn’t
deal
with
it.
They
couldn’t
handle
it
and
we
just
yeah
just
felt
revolutionary,
But
I’d
say
…
…
the
dark
bit
happened
later.
…
Obviously
the
Sett
End
closed
down.
And
then
they
started
trying
to
get
it
going
at
the
Yuticks
Nest.
So
we
were
hanging
around
there
a
lot
and
nothing,
there
were
like
a
little
spell
where
nothing
seemed
to
happen.
And
I
think
at
this
stage
as
well,
the
queues
had
gone
mad
as
well.
So
you
Yewticks Nest
were
virtually
impossible
to
get
in.
Well
by
the
time
that
happened,
…
…
but
I’d
say
it
started
getting
ugly
when
Monroes,
…
when
it
moved
to
Monroes
Because
obviously
the,
you
know,
the
drug
wars
and
everything
that
happened
there
and
you
know,
the
doormen
wanting
to
take
control
of
what
happened
and
I
think
there
was
even
a
gun
pulled
at
Monroes
…
at
one
point
and
and
it
felt
you
know,
you
were
scared
going
there.
…
The
first
I’d
say
the
first
few
months
going
up
Monroes
were
great,
you
know,
used
to
make
me
laugh
that
there
was
no
alcohol
license
there,
you
know,
it’s
a
nightclub
with
a
massive
bar
and
there’s
no
alcohol
license.
But
yeah,
it
just
started
getting
ugly
and
I
think
I
think
like
you
said
before
it
just
it
just
it
did
just
stop
in
the
end.
But
then
for
me
it,
you
know,
it’d
lost,
…
I
always
…
I
wanted
to
be
into
the
next
big
thing
constantly
as
well.
So
between
me
and
my
friends,
it
had
lost
its
trendiness,
you
know
what
I
mean
by
that
point
as
well
and,
and
it
just
became
full
of
d*** heads
and
violence,
you
know,
so
we
thought
right,
we’ll
we’ll
get
into
the
next
thing
we’ll
find
what
the
next
thing
is
and
get
into
that.
So
yeah,
I
wouldn’t
say
that.
Yeah,
obviously
there’s
the
underaged
element
to
it.
Obviously
like
me
being
in
there
at
15
year
old,
you
know
me Mum
had
no
idea
what
I were
doing.
She
thought
I’d
gone
to
a disco.
You
know,
and
then
obviously
when
they
trapped
us
all
in
Blackburn
Town
Centre
on
Darwen
Street
where
the
Minstrels
used
to
be,
they
boxed
us
in
…
I
can
remember
it
being
shoulder
to
shoulder
on
that
crossroads.
It
might
even
have
been
Tommy,
there
was,
I
remember
a lad
stood
on
a
car
roof
going
nobody
run.
Nobody
run.
They
started
letting
dogs
go,
one
or
two
cops,
let
dogs,
you
know
the
dogs
bark
they
let
dogs
go
on’
crowd
and
I
can
remember
mounted
Police
in
a
crowd
like
tryin’a
round
everybody
up
in’
middle
of
that,
that
were,
that were an
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
the,
the
…
the
overall
memory
of
it
is
just
this
revolutionary
punk
spirit
you
know,
it’s
like
the
youths
are
tekin
it,
you
know,
we’re
tekin
it
and
we’re,
it’s
ours,
we’re
havin
it,
you
know.
Yeah
great
days.
And
what
happened
to you
after,
you
mentioned
you
had
an interview
at
art
school?
What
what
did
you
do
after
the
parties?
I
think
I
was
still
going
to
the
…
think
like
I
said,
I
was
still
going
to,
you see
this,
this
is
where
I
get
me
dates
mixed
up,
…
I
think
by
the
end
of
Art
School
I’d
kinda
got,
…
totally
fell
out
with
it,
you
know,
maybe
at
the
beginning
maybe
the
first
year
on
the
that
b-tech,
I’d
fallen
out
with
it.
And
then
yeah,
I
went
to,
it
was
still
going
on
though.
Were
still
going
on
there
were still
big
raves
going
on
and
I
can
remember
going
I
went
to
do
film
and
…
…
television
design
at
Farnborough.
I
wasn’t
a very
focused
Art
student
so
I
didn’t
get
in
on
the
degree
course
I
wanted.
…
You
know,
if
I’m
going
out
every
weekend
doing
that
it’s
not
surprising,
…
you
know,
you
know,
as
you
know,
Sally
said
I
said,
I
do
remember
you
from
Art
School
but
you
were
never
there.
And
then
yeh so
I
went
doing
film
and
television
design
down
South
and
you
know,
I
think
I’d
been
there
about
6
months
and
me mates
are ringing
me
up
again.
There’s
massive
raves
going
off
again.
There’s,
there
were
like
…
20000
people
last
week,
you
know
bla di
blah.
Yeah
so
I just
thought
f*** it
I’m
going
home.
So
I
just sacked
me
course
off.
And
went
home,
…
and
me
mum
was
not
happy
about
it.
But
yeah
talking
about
the
numbers
going
mad.
This
is
I
can’t
remember
clearly
whether
it
was
after
the
Sett
End
or
after
Monroes.
But
there
was
a
part,
…
it
was
the
biggest
numbers
I’ve
ever
seen.
I
think
they
were
estimated.
15000
in
a
Royal,
Royal
Mail
Warehouse
that
had
just
been
built,
just
just
been
completed,
in
fact,
I
don’t
think
they’d
finished
the
concrete
on
one
corner
of the
section
of
the
floor
and
there
was
still
a
JCB
in
the
middle
of
the
building
which
we
were
dancing
on
and
I
can
I
think
they
were
like
15000
in
the
building
and
10000
…
and
10000
outside
still
trying
to
get
in
and
it
was
it
was
just
a
mental.
It
just
went
mad,
you
know,
but
yeah,
that’s
there
was
another
ugly
side
there
as
Well,
…
obviously
they
…
they
were
charging
as
you
go
in
you’re
paying
your
money.
Obviously,
there’s
gangs
of
lads
coming
from
every
city
all
over’
North.
…
So
there
was
a
gang
of
lads
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutters
up,
like
jacking
them
all
up
…
and
as
they
got
them
about
that
high
there
were
people
who
starting…
this
roller
shutters
like
the
length
of
this
straight,
you
know,
and
the
people
start
pouring
underneath
it
crawling
and
as
they
were
doing
as
they
were
doing
it.
There
were
lads
in
SAS
masks,
balaclavas,
we
baseball
bats
cracking
their
knuckles
they
were
getting
cracked,
you
know
as
they
got
in.
…
…
Some
of
em
got
in
and
escaped
into
the
crowd,
but
they
were
like
cracking
people
as
they
were
trying
to
force
the
roller
shutter
back
down.
…
…
And
so
yeah
that
was
another
ugly
side
to
it.
But
yeah,
if
they
were
it,
it
were great.
Apart
from,
you
know
apart
from
those
instances.
There’s
gunna
be a
kid
round
here
doing
what
me
and
you’ve
done
a
lot
of
which
is
looking
at
the
local
history
and
this
is
now
30
years
old.
In
another
100
years
…
…
Yeah.
There’s
going
to
be
a
kid,
a
researcher
or
someone
fitting
all
of
this
together
and
all
of
your
stories
you’re
going
to
you’re
going
to
tell
them,
they’re
gunna
be
delighted
to
hear
this.
What
one
thing
would
you
say
to
a
kid
in
Blackburn
in
100
years
time
about
that
time?
Enjoy
looking
back
at
this
but
always
look
forward
and
always
think
progressively.