Jackie Full Interview

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So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
Sett
End
and
going
to
sommat
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
I
didn’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
(laugh)
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
Acid
parties
within
a
year.
It
was
such
a
fast
transition…
It
were
really
weird,
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
you
know
in our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
four
in
the
morning
or
sommat
Opened
my
bedroom
door
woke
me
up
like
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack!
Jack!
I’m like
what?
what
you
want?
he’s
like
“i’ve
just
heard
a
song
i’ve
just
heard
a
song”
he
might’ve
said
track
but
cant
bear
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
and
I
went
“oh
brilliant…
okay”
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
so
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
Astonishing
Sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come….
and
all
this
so
about
a
week
and half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
I’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
Sett
End
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
would
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah
will
you
tell
us
more
about
the
first
time
you
walked
into
one
of
those
parties
and
what
it
felt
like
especially
as
you
know
as
a
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
year
old
what
that
experience
was
like
so
the
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
seen me
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come here!”
….
I went
….
“please don’t tell my dad!”
“get
in
there”
get
in
there!
So
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I
ever
went
to
I
don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen
Can
you
tell
me
about
some
of
your
best
memories?
like
the
good
things
about
the
era?
It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
were
like
like
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at
Sett
End
he’d
be
able
to
find
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mixtapes
so
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t
you
know
in
between
going
to
acid
parties
I
were
at
school
so
it’s
not
like
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over
I’d
just
be
like
I’d
just
have
mix
tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one
so
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
eight
in the
morning
David would
give
me
a
mix
tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d
go
listen
go
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and
I’d
just
like
put
the phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like
rave
songs
before
she
were
going
to
school
you
know
so
it
would
just
like
waiting
for
all
to
hear
all
stuff
that
you’d
heard
in
clubs
so
it
were
all
music-related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother
were
good
you
know
it
were
nice
to
because
he
knew
I
were
going
in
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
me
up
so
it
were
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
were
just
mine
and
my
brothers
as
well
so
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you
you
know
that
that
you
can
you
can
do
and
I
also
used
to
like
I
used
to
some
people
don’t
like
this
but
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain
certain
music
that
you’d
hear
at
the
parties
some
of
it would
break
through
onto
top
of
the
pops
and
stuff
like
that
so
you’d
be
sat
there
with
mum
and
dad
thinking
God!
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
you
know
it’s
cause
I’ve
been
in a
warehouse
you
know,
three
days
before
dancing
to
it
and
there
you
can’t
like
can’t
let
on
but
yeah
it were
all
the
highlights
were
just
all
the
all
the
music
and
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons
I
wouldn’t
have
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age
but
it
were
just
good
seeing
a
lot
of
people
being
being
nice
to
each
other
you
know
en masse
it
were
really
it
were
really
lovely
so
they
were
the
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there
just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
were
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brother’s
mates
he
had
they
all
knew
I
were his
little
sister
so
they
don’t
you
know
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know
of
checking
on
me
and
seeing
I were
alright
and
stuff
so
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were an
illegal
party
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question,
you
know,
as someone
who
was
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
around
the
time
how
were
you
how
were
you
treated
how
did
people
did
people
know
you
were
you
were
that
age ?
How
were
you
perceived
of
in
that
group
of
what
largely
older
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
were
in
the
sort
of
Fourteen
Fifteen
Sixteen
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties?
yeah
like
I
said
so
I’d
you
know
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on
and
so
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well
so
it
were
just
yeah
I
never
felt
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all
it
were
up
there
were
out
and
they
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us
so
it
weren’t
like
you
know
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our own
but
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so
yeah
I
didn’t
feel
I
don’t
know
you
had
to
I
struggle
to
know
how
I
processed
what
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
was
because
I
probably
went
to
ten
parties
all
in
all
and
but
yeah
it
were
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty
I
just
didn’t
it
just
it
never
felt
like
that
I
don’t
think
any
of
what
I
was
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
were
you
know
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
wasn’t
like
ummm
you
know
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid
you
know
I
wasn’t
like a
wild
child
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
were
thirteen
going
to
warehouse
parties
quite
as
but
I
wasn’t
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing
so
it
were
about
that
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know?
I
think
that
were
the
least
least
of
it
for
me
the
the
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.
So
we’ve
talked
about
the
good
stuff
and
the
excitement
of
it
was
there
anything
darker
or
any
more
negative
memories
that you
have
anything
that
came
out
of
that
time?
The
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it
you
know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’d
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
with
Girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know
there
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
thats
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic
i’m
staying
at
their
house
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
you’re
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses
so
you
don’t
you
know
you
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of
thing.
So
we
went to
Sett
End….
no!
we
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s
that
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
these
draft
this
water
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
it
drips
getting
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obvious
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you… eurghhhh
It
were
horrible
so
anyway
yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cuz
our
mate’s
brother
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out
so
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted
to
their
mum
rang
my
mum
and
dad
and
all
this
so
my
Mum
and
Dad
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time
come
out
they
don’t
find
me
but
my
dad
tells
this
story
where
him and mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy
so
my
dad’s
going
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
us ??
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
acid
house
party
so
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
try
to
go
into
it
and
then
and
then
we
went
to
it
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time
imaginatively
called
Scouse’
So
that
party
I’d
gone
with
my
brother
and
gone
with
him
gone
with
Scouse
on
my
brother
so
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine
my
mum
and
dad’s
so
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
some like
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here
and
so
he
says
Jackie
in a
really
stern
voice
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like
where
have
you
been?
I
went
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
Oswaldtwistle
But
yeah,
he
said
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here
this
is
it
so
I
got
in
me
dad’s
reading
the paper
Me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like
oh
no
she
said
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
acid
house
parties
So
anyway
so
im
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff
then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
like
a
farce!
So
he
walked
out
so
basically
my
mum
said
“right
you’re
grounded”
you’re
grounded
for
a
month
right
and
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
“it’s
not
his
fault
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten
like
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to
I’ve
been
to
ten!”
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours!
So
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours
but
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all the
time so I were
just
like
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours,
but
but
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months
didn’t
ask
to
go
out
were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I was
Fourteen
no
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I
done
my
grounding
my
mum
and
dad
said
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules
so
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen,
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do?
we
can’t
keep
her
in!
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.
Last
question
for
you
before
we
go
and
if
there was
someone
looking
back
at
this
archive
and
understanding
these
stories
a
hundred
years
in
the
future
with
no
kind
of
understanding
of
Blackburn
and
what
they
say
it
was
about,
what
would
you
like
them
to
know
about
it
now ?
Would
you
like
them
to
understand
it?
Oh
god,
a
message
for
the
kids….
I
don’t
want
to
say
what
came
to
mind
straight
away…
but
god
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would
I
think
it
would
be
that
if
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone
who
were
there
the
most
inclusive
you
know
full
of
warm
people
you
know
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there
but
you
know
and
I
suppose
as
well
because
I
had
a
big
brother
this
is
going
to
sound
I
don’t
know
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class
Lancashire
men
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
i’m
you
know
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
The
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk
you
know
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being
you
know
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and
and
I
loved
it
for
that
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
were
just
people
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do
you
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there are
all
that
stuff
going
on
but
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs
is
very
different
the
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know
and
and
I
just
yeah
I
hope
that
you
know
didn’t
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it
you
know
but
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question
I
don’t
know
It’s
a
tough
one
that
I
don’t
know
but
it
what
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked
like
I
say
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever
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Jackie
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Mel
Getting involved part 1. (11 secs)

Full Transcript:

So
I
think
how
I
ended
up
going
to
the
parties
in
Blackburn
it
was
all
because
of
my
older
brother
David
and
he’d
been
going
to
Sett
End
and
going
to
sommat
parties
and
so
I
knew
about
it
so
I
were
like
he
were
a
bit
older
than
me
so
I
were
keeping
it
a
secret
though
I
didn’t
know
if
mum
and
dad
knew
at
the
time
and
so
I
went
from
(laugh)
playing
with
Barbies
to
going
to
Acid
parties
within
a
year.
It
was
such
a
fast
transition…
It
were
really
weird,
so
I
remember
being
fast
asleep
you
know
in our
terraced
house
in
Blackburn
and
my
brother
getting
in
at
like
I
don’t
know
four
in
the
morning
or
sommat
Opened
my
bedroom
door
woke
me
up
like
his
thirteen
year
old
sister
he’s
like
Jack!
Jack!
I’m like
what?
what
you
want?
he’s
like
“i’ve
just
heard
a
song
i’ve
just
heard
a
song”
he
might’ve
said
track
but
cant
bear
track
I
always
feel
weird
saying
track
but
he
said
I’ve
just
heard
some
music
where
it
sounded
like
there
were
a
submarine
in
it
and
I
went
“oh
brilliant…
okay”
get
out
get
out
my
room
you
know
it
were
like
half
four in
morning
so
then
so
then
you
know
it
weren’t
like
now
where
you
can
just
go
online
and
see
what
that
that
track
was
you
know
he
had
to
go
to
Astonishing
Sounds
record
shop
in
Blackburn
wait
for
it
to
come….
and
all
this
so
about
a
week
and half
later
he
said
hey
come
and
listen
to
that
music
I were
on
about
so
we
sat
in
his
bedroom
and
it
were
Pacific
State
by
808
State
and
I
just
thought
it
were the
best
thing
I’d
ever
heard
and
and
it
just
made
me
go
I
want
to
go
wherever
that’s
being
played
basically
so
I
think
I’d
need
to
check with
my
brother
but
I
think
I
probably
went
to
my
first
to
the
Sett
End
and
then
to
my
first
acid
party
a
week
after
hearing
that
because
I
would
just
couldn’t
believe
it
yeah
will
you
tell
us
more
about
the
first
time
you
walked
into
one
of
those
parties
and
what
it
felt
like
especially
as
you
know
as
a
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
year
old
what
that
experience
was
like
so
the
the
first
party
that
I
went
to
so
I
went
with
my
best
friend
Caroline
at
the
time
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
at
Glenfield
Park
and
I
remember
there
being
a
bit
of
a
scary
moment
we
got
you
know
we
got
out
of
the
car
and
then
started
walking
up
this
little
side
bit
at
Glenfield
park
and
then
I’m
sure
somebody
said
ah
there’s
police
dogs
and
everybody
started
running
back round
the
front
of
the
building
anyway
so
me
and
Caroline
who’re
like
queuing
up
outside
waiting
to
get
in
like
really
excited
nervous
and
I
just
heard
someone
shout
shout
my
name
my
full
name
and
I
thought
oh
God
Oh
God
who
is
this?
i’m
in
it
now
that’s
it
someone’s
seen me
sitting
there
and
I
looked
up
and
it
were
a
lad
called
Scotty
who
used
to
play
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
so
he’d
spotted
me
queuing
up
and
I
just
went
running
over
and
he went
‘come here!”
….
I went
….
“please don’t tell my dad!”
“get
in
there”
get
in
there!
So
the
first
party
I
ever
got
into
was
because
of
a
bloke
that
played
Crown
Green
bowls
with
my
dad
but
my
friend
Caroline
was
older
than
me
and
I’m
sure
she
must
have
thought
I
were
dead
cool
to
get
us
into
our
first
acid
party
but
nothing
but
it
were
just
like
me
dad’s
mate
who
probably
wanted
to
keep
an
eye
on
us
so
that
was
that
were
me
first
I
ever
went
to
I
don’t
know
it’s
really
hard
to
remember
how
I
felt
going
into
there
but
I
it
were
all
about
the
dancing
for
me
I
just
loved
dancing
and
and
seeing
everybody
just
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
I’d
never
seen
I’d
never
seen
that
before
you
know
what
you
know
it’s
your
first
Club
experience
really
but
you’re
in
a
big
warehouse
but
it
were
just
just
seeing
a
mass
of
people
all
doing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
was
just
the
best
thing
I’d
ever
seen
Can
you
tell
me
about
some
of
your
best
memories?
like
the
good
things
about
the
era?
It
was
all
music
for
me.
It
were
like
like
because
my
brother
was
really
good
at
finding
all the
stuff
that
we’d
listened
to
at
Sett
End
he’d
be
able
to
find
find
and
order
them.
He
always
made
me
mixtapes
so
it
were
all
about
the
music
for
me
because
I
wasn’t
you
know
in
between
going
to
acid
parties
I
were
at
school
so
it’s
not
like
you
know
the
parties
once
they
were
over
I’d
just
be
like
I’d
just
have
mix
tapes
to
get
me
through
until
the
next
one
so
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
would
be
to
ring
my
friend
Caroline
at
like
eight
in the
morning
David would
give
me
a
mix
tape
so
she’d
be
on
her
way
to
school
and
I’d
go
listen
go
listen
to
what
he’s
found
and
I’d
just
like
put
the phone
you
know
against
the
stereo
and
just
play
Caroline
all
these
like
rave
songs
before
she
were
going
to
school
you
know
so
it
would
just
like
waiting
for
all
to
hear
all
stuff
that
you’d
heard
in
clubs
so
it
were
all
music-related
and
I
think
having
a
secret
with
my
brother
were
good
you
know
it
were
nice
to
because
he
knew
I
were
going
in
and
weren’t
going
to
grass
me
up
so
it
were
just
nice
having
that
thing
that
were
just
mine
and
my
brothers
as
well
so
you’ve
got
a
little
secret
together
that
you
you
know
that
that
you
can
you
can
do
and
I
also
used
to
like
I
used
to
some
people
don’t
like
this
but
I
used
to
like
it
when
certain
certain
music
that
you’d
hear
at
the
parties
some
of
it would
break
through
onto
top
of
the
pops
and
stuff
like
that
so
you’d
be
sat
there
with
mum
and
dad
thinking
God!
why
is
Jackie
going
so
mad
to
this
song
dancing
about
you
know
it’s
cause
I’ve
been
in a
warehouse
you
know,
three
days
before
dancing
to
it
and
there
you
can’t
like
can’t
let
on
but
yeah
it were
all
the
highlights
were
just
all
the
all
the
music
and
and
just
seeing
lots
of
people
all
loved
up
I
mean
for
whatever
reasons
I
wouldn’t
have
known
fully
when
I
was
that
age
but
it
were
just
good
seeing
a
lot
of
people
being
being
nice
to
each
other
you
know
en masse
it
were
really
it
were
really
lovely
so
they
were
the
high
points
it
were
just
music
and
everyone’s
attitude
when
they
were
there
just
everyone
were
looking
out
for
each
other
that
were
my
experience
of
it
and
all
my
brother’s
mates
he
had
they
all
knew
I
were his
little
sister
so
they
don’t
you
know
I’d
always
have
someone
checking
you
know
of
checking
on
me
and
seeing
I were
alright
and
stuff
so
I
always
felt
really
safe
even
though
it
were an
illegal
party
I
felt
very
safe.
That
was
going
to
be
my
next
question,
you
know,
as someone
who
was
Thirteen
or
Fourteen
around
the
time
how
were
you
how
were
you
treated
how
did
people
did
people
know
you
were
you
were
that
age ?
How
were
you
perceived
of
in
that
group
of
what
largely
older
although
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
were
in
the
sort
of
Fourteen
Fifteen
Sixteen
year-olds
but
you
are
probably
the
youngest
person
that
we
think
was
at
those
parties?
yeah
like
I
said
so
I’d
you
know
I
wouldn’t
go
to
all
parties
with
my
brother
because
he
had
his
own
thing
going
on
and
so
I’d
go
with
another
group
of
mates
but
that
group
of
mates
knew
my
brother
as
well
so
it
were
just
yeah
I
never
felt
I
never
felt
unsafe
at
all
it
were
up
there
were
out
and
they
were
always
a
big
gang
of
us
so
it
weren’t
like
you
know
the
first
party
me and
Caroline
went
to
on
our own
but
but
we
always
knew
people
in
there
so
yeah
I
didn’t
feel
I
don’t
know
you
had
to
I
struggle
to
know
how
I
processed
what
were
going
on
at
the
time
because
it
was
because
I
probably
went
to
ten
parties
all
in
all
and
but
yeah
it
were
it
were
a
period
in
time
where
it
just
it
did
feel
really
exciting
and
I
didn’t
feel
like
I
were
being
naughty
I
just
didn’t
it
just
it
never
felt
like
that
I
don’t
think
any
of
what
I
was
was
doing
it
because
it
was
thrilling
and
it
were
you
know
I
don’t
remember
feeling
like
that
because
I
don’t
think
I
wasn’t
like
ummm
you
know
I
was
quite
a
well-behaved
kid
you
know
I
wasn’t
like a
wild
child
It
sounds
like
it
because
I
were
thirteen
going
to
warehouse
parties
quite
as
but
I
wasn’t
I
was
a
really
well-behaved
kid
It
was
just
that
I
loved
music
and
loved
dancing
so
it
were
about
that
It
weren’t
because
it
was
something
naughty
you
know?
I
think
that
were
the
least
least
of
it
for
me
the
the
it
being
illegal.
I
don’t
think
that
really
did
anything
for
me.
So
we’ve
talked
about
the
good
stuff
and
the
excitement
of
it
was
there
anything
darker
or
any
more
negative
memories
that you
have
anything
that
came
out
of
that
time?
The
only
negative
I
think
about
and
it’s
not
something
that
happened
at
the
time
It’s
since…
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
know
struggled
after
it
you
know
because
it
was
such
a
major
thing
in
lots
of
people’s
lives
and
it
was
like
this
euphoric
thing
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
I
think
a
lot
of
people
got
into
other
kinds
of
drugs
after
it
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff
so
there
is
something
for
me
where
I
just
feel
like
maybe
one
downside
of
that
massive
euphoric
thing
was
that
some
people
struggled
after
it
you
know
but
but
I
don’t
I
don’t
really
remember
yeah
the
sad
things
are
the
people
who
I’d
loved
I
got
on
with
I
who
you’d
end
up
in
Sett
End
toilet
with
Girls
that
were
really
funny
and
you
know
like,
you
know
there
were
just
a
lot
of
people
who
went
down
a
different
path
after
it
and
and
a
lot
of
those
people
I
remember
from
that
time
so
that
that’s
my
only
thats
you
know
the
only
sad
thing
I
ever
think
about
it
but
but
the
I
suppose
like
so
that
the
yeah
the
first
time
I
went
that’s
one
story
and
the
the
last
party
the
last
party
I
went
to
where
I
got
found
out
it
was
one
of
them
classic
i’m
staying
at
their
house
they’re
staying
at
my
house
you
know
where
you’re
sort
of
all
staying
at
each
other’s
houses
so
you
don’t
you
know
you
nobody
knows
where
you
are
kind
of
thing.
So
we
went to
Sett
End….
no!
we
no
we
didn’t
we
went
to
Monroe’s
that
that
night
so
I’m
at
Monroe’s
and
I’ve
been
dancing
and
these
draft
this
water
water
used
to
drip
off
the
ceiling
in
there
and
I
remember
it
drips
getting
this
drip
on
me
and
it
burning
and
me
going
what
the
hell
is
that?
It’s
obvious
like
sweaty
ventilation
like
dripping
onto
your
face
and
making
you… eurghhhh
It
were
horrible
so
anyway
yeah
I
was
in
there
and
unbeknownst
to
me
we’d
all
been
found
out
cuz
our
mate’s
brother
one
of
his
mates
fancied
one
of
our
other
mates
and
wanted
to
ask
her
out
so
he
phoned
her
up
at
one
of
our
houses
where
she
wasn’t
staying
so
they
got
alerted
to
their
mum
rang
my
mum
and
dad
and
all
this
so
my
Mum
and
Dad
they
parked
outside
Monroe’s
waiting
for
me
to
come
out
which
I
didn’t
know
so
i’m
having
a
brilliant
time
come
out
they
don’t
find
me
but
my
dad
tells
this
story
where
him and mum
set off
to
go
home
because
they’d
you
know
they
hadn’t
found
me
and
they’ve
got
about
ten
cars
following
them
following
behind
them
like
a
convoy
so
my
dad’s
going
what are
these
bloody
cars
doing
following
us ??
So
he
had
to
pull
in
so
that
they’d
all
go
past
him
and
he
were
just
like
they
were
going
to
this
bloody
acid
house
party
so
so
anyway
we
went
to
that
party
we
went
to
Oswaldtwistle
and
I
remember
because
we
went
past
Daisy
Dairy
about
twelve
times
try
to
go
into
it
and
then
and
then
we
went
to
it
and
I
were
going
out
with
a lad
from
Liverpool
at
the
time
imaginatively
called
Scouse’
So
that
party
I’d
gone
with
my
brother
and
gone
with
him
gone
with
Scouse
on
my
brother
so
so
we
went
there
had
a
really
good
time
and
then
I
went
to
my
friend
Dan’s
house
and
my
brother
went
with
Scouse
and
we were
all
going
to
meet
back
up
at
mine
my
mum
and
dad’s
so
I
got
to
Dan’s
and
her
dad
shouts
her
upstairs
and
I
could
tell
in
his
voice
some like
oh
my
god
we’ve
been
rumbled
here
and
so
he
says
Jackie
in a
really
stern
voice
I
went
upstairs
he’s
like
where
have
you
been?
I
went
ummmm
Caroline’s
he’s
like
no
try
again
i’m
like
I
was
in
Oswaldtwistle
But
yeah,
he
said
your
mum
and
dad
know
and
he
said
I
went
s***
they’re
going
to
kill
me
and
she
lived
five
minutes
from
me
and
I
walked
home
my
heart were
pounding
out
my
chest
thinking
oh
my
god
i’ve
had
it
here
this
is
it
so
I
got
in
me
dad’s
reading
the paper
Me
mum’s
in
tears
just
like
sobbing
and
I’m
like
oh
no
she
said
we
were
worried
about
you
going
in pubs
never
mind
to
these
acid
house
parties
So
anyway
so
im
being
quizzed
about
all
this
stuff
then
my
brother
walks
in
with
Scouse
and
my
mum
always
thought
he
were
a
bit
too
old
for
me
and
she
went
get
out
my
brother
turned
around
to
leave
she
went
not
you
him!
like
a
farce!
So
he
walked
out
so
basically
my
mum
said
“right
you’re
grounded”
you’re
grounded
for
a
month
right
and
she
said
and
you’re
not
allowed
to
see
him
anymore
and
I
said
“it’s
not
his
fault
It’s
not
his
fault
I’ve
been
to
ten
like
this
isn’t
the
first
one
I’ve
been
to
I’ve
been
to
ten!”
She
went
right
well
you’re
grounded
for
two
months
and
you
can’t
watch
Neighbours!
So
that’s
how
young
I
was
come
on
no
Neighbours
but
when
you’re
at
school
everyone’s
just
talking
about
it
all the
time so I were
just
like
I
felt
so
alien
like
not
being
able
to
watch
Neighbours,
but
but
then
so
I
did
my
grounding
like
two
months
didn’t
ask
to
go
out
were
really
good
but
I
did
look
older
for
my
age
and
all
that
and
my
friends
were
older
so
I
think
after
that
cause
I was
Fourteen
no
must’ve
been
Fourteen
when
I
done
my
grounding
my
mum
and
dad
said
right
well
you’re
allowed
out
but
there’s
these
rules
so
when
I
turned
like
Fifteen,
my
mum
and
dad
started
being
a
bit
more
like
well
she’s
obviously
likes
dancing
she
Likes
music
what
we’re
going
to
do?
we
can’t
keep
her
in!
can’t
stop
her
going
out
so
we
agreed
that
I were
allowed
out
with
certain
rules
no
drinking
if
you
get
caught
drinking
that’s
it
you
know
in
by
a
certain
time
wanted
to
know
who you’re
with
and
all
that
so
in
actually
going
to
them
and
being
found
out
actually
helped
my
relationship
with
my
mum
and
dad
in
terms
of
me
being
someone
who
wanted
to
go
dancing.
Last
question
for
you
before
we
go
and
if
there was
someone
looking
back
at
this
archive
and
understanding
these
stories
a
hundred
years
in
the
future
with
no
kind
of
understanding
of
Blackburn
and
what
they
say
it
was
about,
what
would
you
like
them
to
know
about
it
now ?
Would
you
like
them
to
understand
it?
Oh
god,
a
message
for
the
kids….
I
don’t
want
to
say
what
came
to
mind
straight
away…
but
god
I
don’t
know
what
the
message
would
be
but
It
would
I
think
it
would
be
that
if
if
you’d
have
walked
into
one
of
those
warehouses
and
seen
everyone
who
were
there
the
most
inclusive
you
know
full
of
warm
people
you
know
and
I
know
there
were
other
things
at
play
there
but
you
know
and
I
suppose
as
well
because
I
had
a
big
brother
this
is
going
to
sound
I
don’t
know
I
don’t
want
to
sound
like
I’m
generalising
but
I
did
love
seeing
lots
of
men
cuddling
each
other
and
you
know
being
nice
to
each
other
and
you
know
because
in
Blackburn
in
working
class
Lancashire
men
a
lot
of
the
time
struggle
with
that
kind
of
stuff
i’m
you
know
I’m
from
that
background
where
you
know
they
don’t
really
talk
about…
The
men
in
our
family
don’t
really
talk
you
know
there
was
something
about
it
that
made
people
really
open
and
opened
up
a
conversation
about
stuff
and
feelings
and
being
you
know
not
embarrassed
to
just
let
your
feelings
out
and
and
I
loved
it
for
that
I
absolutely
loved
that
side
of
it
that
were
just
people
just
being
free
to
do
what
they
wanted
to
do
you
and
I
think
now
there
are
like
free
parties
and
there are
all
that
stuff
going
on
but
I
don’t
know
whether
I
should
say
this
but
I
feel
sorry
now
for
that
age
group
because
the
drugs
is
very
different
the
these
drugs
that
make
it
where
you
can’t
talk
and
you
can’t
move
properly
you
know
it’s
not
conducive
to
being
sociable
you
know
and
and
I
just
yeah
I
hope
that
you
know
didn’t
know
that
people
were
sort
of
lucid
enough
to
actually
enjoy
it
and
remember
it
you
know
but
yeah
I
don’t
know
if
that
answers
the
question
I
don’t
know
It’s
a
tough
one
that
I
don’t
know
but
it
what
it
did
feel
like
freedom
and
it
did
feel
like
you
were
just
all
together
in
a
positive
place
which
I
really
liked
like
I
say
I
don’t
remember
one
bit
of
trouble
ever