Damien Full Interview

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So
I
was
living
in
Blackburn.
I grew
up
there
and
was
into
all
sorts
of
music
all
different
kinds
of
music
growing
up.
But
I
was
15
in
1989
I
was
still
at
school
and
started
going
out
and
about
and
I
don’t
know
how
we
found
Crackers.
I
don’t
know
how
someone
told
us
to
go
to
Crackers.
Can’t
remember
how
that
happened.
But
anyway,
we
did.
Me
and
a
mate
I think
in about
March
1989
and
I
felt
totally
at
home
there.
Because
I
think
going
out
for
me
then
n’if
you
went
other
places,
it
was
like…
was
either
like
a
cattle
market
and
it
was
really
commercial;
or
you
went
out
t’ like
a
village
outside
of
town
or
village
down
the
road
and
people
just
wanted
to
beat
you
up
because
you
didn’t
come
from
that
village.
So
when
I
went
to
Crackers
and
it
was
like
you
couldn’t
see
what
was
going
on.
It
was
full
of
smoke.
It’s
full
of
strobe
lights.
Were
saying
in
the
conversation
with
Joules
before…
you
didn’t
actually
know
I
didn’t
actually
know
how
big
the
room
was,
because
there
was
a
mirror
one
end.
So
you
couldn’t
see
what
I
didn’t
even
know
what
the
room
actually
looked
like.
It
was
just
a
mass
of
people
and
smoke
and
strobes.
So
no
one
was
bothered
about
you,
you
know,
and
I
really
like
that,
you
know,
you
just
got
on
and
did
your
thing
and
it’s
and
the
music
was…
I
loved
House
music
and
I
loved
what
I
was
hearing
of
Acid
House
you
know,
we were
into
lots
of
different
kinds
of
music,
but
were
really
really
starting
to
get
into
House
music,
but
it
was
really
exotic
because
you
didn’t
know
most
of
the
tunes,
you
know
for
me
it
was
new.
you
know,
th’was
a
whole
world
that
you
you
were
diving
into,
so
so
that
was
the
beginning
of
my
connection.
We
went
there
a
couple
of
times
and
probably
the
3rd
time
I
turned
up
there,
they
said,
oh
it’s
not
on
tonight
and
a
van
pulled
up
and
they
said…
this
vans
gunna
go
to
an
acid
house
party…
and
if
you
want
to
go
get
in
quick,
so
we
jumped
in
the
van.
Didn’t
know
who it
was,
didn’t
know
who
anyone
was who
said
anything.
I
was
just
there
with
a
mate,
he were
called
Jack
and
I
think
he
was
a
bit
scared,
because
as I
said
we
were
15
we
weren’t
really
supposed
to
be
there,
d’ya
know
what i
mean.
We
jumped
in
and
then
that
was
our
first
party,
so
that
was
sometime
in
the
first
half
of
89
I’d
say.
And
you
know,
I
was
hooked.
I
was
just
totally
hooked
from
then
on
and
then
we
were
so
we
were
going
to
Sett
End
regularly.
I
wouldn’t
say
that
if
by
any
means
I
went
to
every
party,
but
I
went
to
a
fair
decent
amount
of
them…
right
through
to…
to
the
end.
And
still
trying
to
go
to
ones
that
didn’t
happen
afterwards,
you
know,
because
there
was
plenty
of
attempts
afterwards
to
make
parties
happen
so…
so
I
don’t
live
in
Blackburn
anymore.
But
y’know
it
was
it
was
a
huge
part
of
my
life.
So
yeah,
so
so
that
was…
my
involvement
really
was
as
a
as
a
as
a
participant
as
a
punter
as
someone
who
attended
the
parties
and
from
from
a
young
age
and
I
was
so
passionate
about
it.
I
guess
that
I
was
keen
to
involve
and
encourage
as
many
people
as
I
could
to
come
which
was
mostly
at
the
time
like
other
mates
who
were
at
school
really
cus
I
thought
it
was
just
the
best
thing,
you
know,
although
it was
the
best
thing
anyone
could
be
doing
and
the
most
exciting
thing
that
anyone
could
be
doing
cos
it
ticked
so
many…
so
many
different
boxes,
you
know,
you
were
in
in
rooms
and
in
warehouses
with
thousands
of
people
and
and
people
really
came
together
with
a
common
purpose
and
I’ve
see
beautiful
experiences
and
it
made
you
realise
that
you
know,
like
you
didn’t
have
to
be
in
like
really
really
picturesque
locations.
You
didn’t
really
have
to
be
in
like
I’ve
been
in
some
amazing
clubs
in
like
Ibiza
and
other
parts
of
the
world
where
it’s
like…
feels
like
a
paradise
and
got
its
own
special
atmosphere,
but
you
could
be
in
a
dirty
warehouse
in
Blackburn
with
people
jumping
up
and
down
on
you
know,
JCB
you
know
diggers
and
things
like
that
or
ice
cream
Vans
and
and
you
know
dilapidated
warehouses
and
and
that
was
that
was
heaven.
That
was
as
good
as
it
got
for
me
because
it
was
created
by
all
the
people
there
and
it
wasn’t
about
you
know,
a
culture
of
like
Superstar
DJ’s
or
you
know
at
all
it
was
about
it
was
about
the
music
and
that
the
thing
that
was
amazing
was
the
party
itself.
And
that
to
me
is
like
the
community
of
all
the
people
who
come
together
to
make
that,
y’know
all the
special
things
that
happened
to
come
together.
So
yeah,
so
it
was
definitely
left
a
big
hole
for
me
when
it
when
the
parties
eventually
finished.
But
I
was
so
grateful
to
to
be
a
part
of
that.
And
I’m
glad
that
at
the
time
I
was
able
to
seize
it
and
see
it
for
what
it
was
because
I
guess
a
lot
of
other
people
I
knew
who
were
young,
you
know,
same
age
15, 16…
they
weren’t
in
situations
where
they
could
go
but
I
would
have
I
would
have
left
home,
you
know
to
be
part
of
them,
the
parties.
I
would
have
done
anything.
Cos
I
think
I
knew
that
I
just
had
to
be
there,
you
know,
and
so
I’m
glad
that
I
could
see
it.
I
have
the
conviction
and
see
it
for
what
it
was
at
the
time
which
was
like
a
really
unique
beautiful
thing
which
you
know
has
really
influenced
my
life
in
lots
of
ways.
And
it
definitely
was
a
big
influence
on
me
wanting
to
make
music,
you
know
and
put
on
events
put
on
music
You
Know
music
events.
But
its
influenced
me
to
do
loads
and
loads
of
different
things
in
m’ life.
So
that
very
first
party
was
a
big
one
for
me
because
it
was
y’know
I
think
I
was
15
and
you
know,
it
was
like
right
there’s
nothing
to
tell
there’s
no
one
telling
me
to
go
home.
I
shouldn’t
be
here.
This
is
crazy.
That
was
an
amazing
night
because
it
was
one
of
those,
you
know,
you’re
there
when
you’re
young
and
you’re
like,
I’m
actually
at an
Acid
House
party…
that
was
that’s
it.
I’ve
got
to
because
before
that
it
was
only
things
that
you’ve
read
about
in
the
paper,
you
know,
seeing
people
down
near
London
in
aircraft
hangars
and
reading
all
these
like
sort
of
moral
panic
stories
and
thinking
wow,
it
looks
amazing.
I
wanna
be
at
something
like
that.
So
it
wasn’t
very
it
wasn’t
very
long
after
the
reading
those
sort
of
things
that
you
know,
I
found
myself
at
something.
So
I
felt
I
felt
quite
lucky
really
quite
blessed
being
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
time
to
jump
in
a
van
that
says
right
we’re
off
to
an
Acid
House
party
and
you
don’t
know
where,
you
don’t
know
when,
you
don’t
know
you
gonna
get
home
and
you’ve
hardly
got
any
money
in
your
pocket,
you
know
enough
money
to
get
to
a
phone
box
to
tell
tell
your
folks
a
lie
about
where…
who’s
house
your
staying at
in
order
to
be
out
for
the
night
and
also
um
and
then
enough
money
to
to
buy
some
acid
and
and
and
get
on
it
on
very
strong
acid
as
well…
strong
enough
for
to
be
to
feel…
think
that
you’d
seen
seen
the
room
get
busted
by
police
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
like
get
out
of
the
way
and
then
realise
that
hadn’t
….
that.
hadn’t
happened
at
all.
So
to
me
that
first
warehouse
was
special
because
it
was
also
a
room
full
of
people
with
like
very
weird
faces
and
vampires
and
police
trying
to
bust
it
and
I
was
going
through
it
all
and
then
was
y’know
I realize
now
that
okay
I’m
just
dancing
in
a
warehouse
and
it
all
kind
of
went
on,
you
know…
on
many
levels
and
in
many
dimensions,
but
it
was
it
was
amazing
and
it
just
felt
like
it
never
stopped
you
know
it
was
going
on
all
night,
and
it
was
relentless.
And
that
was
the
thing
that’s
what
I
wanted.
I
didn’t
want
to
be
told
when
to
go
home.
The
one
that
really
stands
out
for
me,
I
guess
is
the
Altham
party…
and
it
was
me
birthday.
I
think
the
day
after
my
birthday.
So
would’ve
been
my
16th
birthday.
And
it
were
special
for
a
load
of
different
reasons,
I’d actually
gone
out
on
me
own.
None
of
my
mates
could
come
out.
So
yeah,
it
was
my
birthday
in
1990
and
it
just
seemed
like
a very
euphoric
atmosphere
to
me,
cos
I
liked
the
really
dark
warehouses.
I
liked
it
when
it
was
just
dark
and
a
strobe,
but
having
all
the
lights
and
the
projections
in
Altham,
you
could
see
the
crowd
in
a
different
way
and
it
just
looked
when
you
looked
across
it
looked
epic.
What
I
can
remember
in
the
morning,
was
just
having
this
absolutely
amazing
night.
Being
getting
in
there
really
early,
and
which
was just
brilliant.
There’s
nothing
like
being
in
a
party
early.
And
then
when
you
heard
the
sound
system
come
on.
And
the
lights
are
on
that
that
I
mean,
yeah,
that’s
the
thing.
I
think
I’m
pretty
sure,
that
that
memory
for
me
is
at Altham…
being
in
there
with
the
lights
on
and
then
hearing
the
music
the
lights
going
off
and
the
music
coming
on
then
the
cheer
that
went
up
like,
it’s
like
someone
scored
at the
football.
It
was
amazing.
And
and
my
memory
in
the
morning
of
that
was
that
someone
came
on
the
mic
and
announced
that
Nelson
Mandela
was
going
to
be
released.
Really?
That’s
my
memory
of
Altham,
and
that
there
was
a
massive
cheer
from
the
from
the
crowd
that
people
were
going
mad.
So
someone
came
on
the
mic
and
announced
that
Nelson
Mandela
was
gonna be
released.
So
to
me
it
felt
like
this
really
pivotal
time,
you
know,
it
was
like,
I
can’t
remember
the
order
of
exactly
everything
but
in
that
in
89,
I
think
there’d
have
been
like
the
Velvet
Revolution
in
Prague
in
Czech
Republic
and
then
there
was
you
know,
the
Berlin
Wall
was
around
that
time
and
then
so
the
idea
cus
to
me,
you
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
lyrics
and
a
lot
of
that
American
House
music
that
was
really
about
equality,
you
know
for
all,
and
there’s
some
really
really
beautiful
messages
in
a
lot
of
those
songs
and
and
it
felt
like
there
was
an
energy
of
that,
you
know
within
the
parties,
you
know
for
a
lot
of
people
anyway
that
we’re
really,
you
know,
it
was
a
great
leveler.
There’s
no
greater
leveller
than
being
on
a
dance
floor
with
loads
of
people,
you
know
to
me,
because
you
don’t
need
words
to
express
what’s
going
on.
It’s
just
about
expression
of
who
you
are,
and
there’s
the
individuality
within
that.
But
you’re
coming
together
in
a
common
goal
with
other
people,
and
that’s
that’s
just
an
amazing
thing.
So
then
hearing
about
somebody
who
like,
you
know,
really
fought
for
freedom,
you
know
being
released
in
that
in
that
context.
It
felt
like
it
was
connected.
You
know
that
there
was
a
connection
to
the
kind
of
world
that
we
were
aspiring
about,
you
know
aspiring
for
and
hoping
for.
So
that
that
felt
like
a
really
special
moment
for
me
at
Altham.
Well,
the
party’s
ending
was
a
bad
memory.
That
was
that
was
that
was
bad
because
it
it
was
really
depressing.
Because…
because
it
was
hard.
Yeah,
definitely
hard
to
replace
something
like
that
because
it
was
such
a
euphoric
experience
because
it
brought
people
together
in
such
a
way
that
to
not
have
that
in
your
life…
and
also
because
it
felt
like
the
things…
even
though
as
I’m
older
I
can
see
that
it
it
needed
to
stop
probably
probably
probably
because
of
the
elements
that
were at
play,
you
know,
at
the
time,
you
know,
the
the
influence
of
the
gangs
and
other
aspects
maybe
greed
and
other
things
that
were
coming
into
it.
But
in
terms
of
like
the
you
know
the
sort
of
the
sort
of
beauty
in
the
and
just
the
buzz
of
it
and
how
you
know
how
good
it
was.
It
was
such
a
hard
thing
for
it
to
not
not
be
there
and
I
think…
And
also
it
felt
like
like
the
the
sort
of
old
the
old
way
of
doing
things
was
kind
of
winging
out.
I
think
that’s
why
it
felt
like
a
negative
thing
because
it
felt
like
all
the
sort
of
traditional
aspects
of
culture
that
you
were
kind
of
rebelling
against
and
didn’t
really,
you
know,
want
much
to
do
with,
you
know,
how
you
have
fun,
where
you
do
it,
what
time
you
do
it
till,
you
know,
all
that
was
like
it
was
like
that
that
was
winging
out,
you
know,
in
a
way,
n’ that
was,
that
was
so
that
that
felt
a bit
depressing.
But
in
terms
of
like
actual
experiences…
at
the
parties…
I
don’t
really
remember
having
any.
For
all
like,
for
all
the
sort
of
dark,
for
the
dark
and
sort
of
twisted
and
difficult
aspects
of
humanity…
It’s
really
important
to
always
have
hope,
because
in
the
most
unlikely
places,
and
from
the
most
unlikely
people
the
most
incredible
things
can
happen.
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So
I
was
living
in
Blackburn.
I grew
up
there
and
was
into
all
sorts
of
music
all
different
kinds
of
music
growing
up.
But
I
was
15
in
1989
I
was
still
at
school
and
started
going
out
and
about
and
I
don’t
know
how
we
found
Crackers.
I
don’t
know
how
someone
told
us
to
go
to
Crackers.
Can’t
remember
how
that
happened.
But
anyway,
we
did.
Me
and
a
mate
I think
in about
March
1989
and
I
felt
totally
at
home
there.
Because
I
think
going
out
for
me
then
n’if
you
went
other
places,
it
was
like…
was
either
like
a
cattle
market
and
it
was
really
commercial;
or
you
went
out
t’ like
a
village
outside
of
town
or
village
down
the
road
and
people
just
wanted
to
beat
you
up
because
you
didn’t
come
from
that
village.
So
when
I
went
to
Crackers
and
it
was
like
you
couldn’t
see
what
was
going
on.
It
was
full
of
smoke.
It’s
full
of
strobe
lights.
Were
saying
in
the
conversation
with
Joules
before…
you
didn’t
actually
know
I
didn’t
actually
know
how
big
the
room
was,
because
there
was
a
mirror
one
end.
So
you
couldn’t
see
what
I
didn’t
even
know
what
the
room
actually
looked
like.
It
was
just
a
mass
of
people
and
smoke
and
strobes.
So
no
one
was
bothered
about
you,
you
know,
and
I
really
like
that,
you
know,
you
just
got
on
and
did
your
thing
and
it’s
and
the
music
was…
I
loved
House
music
and
I
loved
what
I
was
hearing
of
Acid
House
you
know,
we were
into
lots
of
different
kinds
of
music,
but
were
really
really
starting
to
get
into
House
music,
but
it
was
really
exotic
because
you
didn’t
know
most
of
the
tunes,
you
know
for
me
it
was
new.
you
know,
th’was
a
whole
world
that
you
you
were
diving
into,
so
so
that
was
the
beginning
of
my
connection.
We
went
there
a
couple
of
times
and
probably
the
3rd
time
I
turned
up
there,
they
said,
oh
it’s
not
on
tonight
and
a
van
pulled
up
and
they
said…
this
vans
gunna
go
to
an
acid
house
party…
and
if
you
want
to
go
get
in
quick,
so
we
jumped
in
the
van.
Didn’t
know
who it
was,
didn’t
know
who
anyone
was who
said
anything.
I
was
just
there
with
a
mate,
he were
called
Jack
and
I
think
he
was
a
bit
scared,
because
as I
said
we
were
15
we
weren’t
really
supposed
to
be
there,
d’ya
know
what i
mean.
We
jumped
in
and
then
that
was
our
first
party,
so
that
was
sometime
in
the
first
half
of
89
I’d
say.
And
you
know,
I
was
hooked.
I
was
just
totally
hooked
from
then
on
and
then
we
were
so
we
were
going
to
Sett
End
regularly.
I
wouldn’t
say
that
if
by
any
means
I
went
to
every
party,
but
I
went
to
a
fair
decent
amount
of
them…
right
through
to…
to
the
end.
And
still
trying
to
go
to
ones
that
didn’t
happen
afterwards,
you
know,
because
there
was
plenty
of
attempts
afterwards
to
make
parties
happen
so…
so
I
don’t
live
in
Blackburn
anymore.
But
y’know
it
was
it
was
a
huge
part
of
my
life.
So
yeah,
so
so
that
was…
my
involvement
really
was
as
a
as
a
as
a
participant
as
a
punter
as
someone
who
attended
the
parties
and
from
from
a
young
age
and
I
was
so
passionate
about
it.
I
guess
that
I
was
keen
to
involve
and
encourage
as
many
people
as
I
could
to
come
which
was
mostly
at
the
time
like
other
mates
who
were
at
school
really
cus
I
thought
it
was
just
the
best
thing,
you
know,
although
it was
the
best
thing
anyone
could
be
doing
and
the
most
exciting
thing
that
anyone
could
be
doing
cos
it
ticked
so
many…
so
many
different
boxes,
you
know,
you
were
in
in
rooms
and
in
warehouses
with
thousands
of
people
and
and
people
really
came
together
with
a
common
purpose
and
I’ve
see
beautiful
experiences
and
it
made
you
realise
that
you
know,
like
you
didn’t
have
to
be
in
like
really
really
picturesque
locations.
You
didn’t
really
have
to
be
in
like
I’ve
been
in
some
amazing
clubs
in
like
Ibiza
and
other
parts
of
the
world
where
it’s
like…
feels
like
a
paradise
and
got
its
own
special
atmosphere,
but
you
could
be
in
a
dirty
warehouse
in
Blackburn
with
people
jumping
up
and
down
on
you
know,
JCB
you
know
diggers
and
things
like
that
or
ice
cream
Vans
and
and
you
know
dilapidated
warehouses
and
and
that
was
that
was
heaven.
That
was
as
good
as
it
got
for
me
because
it
was
created
by
all
the
people
there
and
it
wasn’t
about
you
know,
a
culture
of
like
Superstar
DJ’s
or
you
know
at
all
it
was
about
it
was
about
the
music
and
that
the
thing
that
was
amazing
was
the
party
itself.
And
that
to
me
is
like
the
community
of
all
the
people
who
come
together
to
make
that,
y’know
all the
special
things
that
happened
to
come
together.
So
yeah,
so
it
was
definitely
left
a
big
hole
for
me
when
it
when
the
parties
eventually
finished.
But
I
was
so
grateful
to
to
be
a
part
of
that.
And
I’m
glad
that
at
the
time
I
was
able
to
seize
it
and
see
it
for
what
it
was
because
I
guess
a
lot
of
other
people
I
knew
who
were
young,
you
know,
same
age
15, 16…
they
weren’t
in
situations
where
they
could
go
but
I
would
have
I
would
have
left
home,
you
know
to
be
part
of
them,
the
parties.
I
would
have
done
anything.
Cos
I
think
I
knew
that
I
just
had
to
be
there,
you
know,
and
so
I’m
glad
that
I
could
see
it.
I
have
the
conviction
and
see
it
for
what
it
was
at
the
time
which
was
like
a
really
unique
beautiful
thing
which
you
know
has
really
influenced
my
life
in
lots
of
ways.
And
it
definitely
was
a
big
influence
on
me
wanting
to
make
music,
you
know
and
put
on
events
put
on
music
You
Know
music
events.
But
its
influenced
me
to
do
loads
and
loads
of
different
things
in
m’ life.
So
that
very
first
party
was
a
big
one
for
me
because
it
was
y’know
I
think
I
was
15
and
you
know,
it
was
like
right
there’s
nothing
to
tell
there’s
no
one
telling
me
to
go
home.
I
shouldn’t
be
here.
This
is
crazy.
That
was
an
amazing
night
because
it
was
one
of
those,
you
know,
you’re
there
when
you’re
young
and
you’re
like,
I’m
actually
at an
Acid
House
party…
that
was
that’s
it.
I’ve
got
to
because
before
that
it
was
only
things
that
you’ve
read
about
in
the
paper,
you
know,
seeing
people
down
near
London
in
aircraft
hangars
and
reading
all
these
like
sort
of
moral
panic
stories
and
thinking
wow,
it
looks
amazing.
I
wanna
be
at
something
like
that.
So
it
wasn’t
very
it
wasn’t
very
long
after
the
reading
those
sort
of
things
that
you
know,
I
found
myself
at
something.
So
I
felt
I
felt
quite
lucky
really
quite
blessed
being
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
time
to
jump
in
a
van
that
says
right
we’re
off
to
an
Acid
House
party
and
you
don’t
know
where,
you
don’t
know
when,
you
don’t
know
you
gonna
get
home
and
you’ve
hardly
got
any
money
in
your
pocket,
you
know
enough
money
to
get
to
a
phone
box
to
tell
tell
your
folks
a
lie
about
where…
who’s
house
your
staying at
in
order
to
be
out
for
the
night
and
also
um
and
then
enough
money
to
to
buy
some
acid
and
and
and
get
on
it
on
very
strong
acid
as
well…
strong
enough
for
to
be
to
feel…
think
that
you’d
seen
seen
the
room
get
busted
by
police
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
like
get
out
of
the
way
and
then
realise
that
hadn’t
….
that.
hadn’t
happened
at
all.
So
to
me
that
first
warehouse
was
special
because
it
was
also
a
room
full
of
people
with
like
very
weird
faces
and
vampires
and
police
trying
to
bust
it
and
I
was
going
through
it
all
and
then
was
y’know
I realize
now
that
okay
I’m
just
dancing
in
a
warehouse
and
it
all
kind
of
went
on,
you
know…
on
many
levels
and
in
many
dimensions,
but
it
was
it
was
amazing
and
it
just
felt
like
it
never
stopped
you
know
it
was
going
on
all
night,
and
it
was
relentless.
And
that
was
the
thing
that’s
what
I
wanted.
I
didn’t
want
to
be
told
when
to
go
home.
The
one
that
really
stands
out
for
me,
I
guess
is
the
Altham
party…
and
it
was
me
birthday.
I
think
the
day
after
my
birthday.
So
would’ve
been
my
16th
birthday.
And
it
were
special
for
a
load
of
different
reasons,
I’d actually
gone
out
on
me
own.
None
of
my
mates
could
come
out.
So
yeah,
it
was
my
birthday
in
1990
and
it
just
seemed
like
a very
euphoric
atmosphere
to
me,
cos
I
liked
the
really
dark
warehouses.
I
liked
it
when
it
was
just
dark
and
a
strobe,
but
having
all
the
lights
and
the
projections
in
Altham,
you
could
see
the
crowd
in
a
different
way
and
it
just
looked
when
you
looked
across
it
looked
epic.
What
I
can
remember
in
the
morning,
was
just
having
this
absolutely
amazing
night.
Being
getting
in
there
really
early,
and
which
was just
brilliant.
There’s
nothing
like
being
in
a
party
early.
And
then
when
you
heard
the
sound
system
come
on.
And
the
lights
are
on
that
that
I
mean,
yeah,
that’s
the
thing.
I
think
I’m
pretty
sure,
that
that
memory
for
me
is
at Altham…
being
in
there
with
the
lights
on
and
then
hearing
the
music
the
lights
going
off
and
the
music
coming
on
then
the
cheer
that
went
up
like,
it’s
like
someone
scored
at the
football.
It
was
amazing.
And
and
my
memory
in
the
morning
of
that
was
that
someone
came
on
the
mic
and
announced
that
Nelson
Mandela
was
going
to
be
released.
Really?
That’s
my
memory
of
Altham,
and
that
there
was
a
massive
cheer
from
the
from
the
crowd
that
people
were
going
mad.
So
someone
came
on
the
mic
and
announced
that
Nelson
Mandela
was
gonna be
released.
So
to
me
it
felt
like
this
really
pivotal
time,
you
know,
it
was
like,
I
can’t
remember
the
order
of
exactly
everything
but
in
that
in
89,
I
think
there’d
have
been
like
the
Velvet
Revolution
in
Prague
in
Czech
Republic
and
then
there
was
you
know,
the
Berlin
Wall
was
around
that
time
and
then
so
the
idea
cus
to
me,
you
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
lyrics
and
a
lot
of
that
American
House
music
that
was
really
about
equality,
you
know
for
all,
and
there’s
some
really
really
beautiful
messages
in
a
lot
of
those
songs
and
and
it
felt
like
there
was
an
energy
of
that,
you
know
within
the
parties,
you
know
for
a
lot
of
people
anyway
that
we’re
really,
you
know,
it
was
a
great
leveler.
There’s
no
greater
leveller
than
being
on
a
dance
floor
with
loads
of
people,
you
know
to
me,
because
you
don’t
need
words
to
express
what’s
going
on.
It’s
just
about
expression
of
who
you
are,
and
there’s
the
individuality
within
that.
But
you’re
coming
together
in
a
common
goal
with
other
people,
and
that’s
that’s
just
an
amazing
thing.
So
then
hearing
about
somebody
who
like,
you
know,
really
fought
for
freedom,
you
know
being
released
in
that
in
that
context.
It
felt
like
it
was
connected.
You
know
that
there
was
a
connection
to
the
kind
of
world
that
we
were
aspiring
about,
you
know
aspiring
for
and
hoping
for.
So
that
that
felt
like
a
really
special
moment
for
me
at
Altham.
Well,
the
party’s
ending
was
a
bad
memory.
That
was
that
was
that
was
bad
because
it
it
was
really
depressing.
Because…
because
it
was
hard.
Yeah,
definitely
hard
to
replace
something
like
that
because
it
was
such
a
euphoric
experience
because
it
brought
people
together
in
such
a
way
that
to
not
have
that
in
your
life…
and
also
because
it
felt
like
the
things…
even
though
as
I’m
older
I
can
see
that
it
it
needed
to
stop
probably
probably
probably
because
of
the
elements
that
were at
play,
you
know,
at
the
time,
you
know,
the
the
influence
of
the
gangs
and
other
aspects
maybe
greed
and
other
things
that
were
coming
into
it.
But
in
terms
of
like
the
you
know
the
sort
of
the
sort
of
beauty
in
the
and
just
the
buzz
of
it
and
how
you
know
how
good
it
was.
It
was
such
a
hard
thing
for
it
to
not
not
be
there
and
I
think…
And
also
it
felt
like
like
the
the
sort
of
old
the
old
way
of
doing
things
was
kind
of
winging
out.
I
think
that’s
why
it
felt
like
a
negative
thing
because
it
felt
like
all
the
sort
of
traditional
aspects
of
culture
that
you
were
kind
of
rebelling
against
and
didn’t
really,
you
know,
want
much
to
do
with,
you
know,
how
you
have
fun,
where
you
do
it,
what
time
you
do
it
till,
you
know,
all
that
was
like
it
was
like
that
that
was
winging
out,
you
know,
in
a
way,
n’ that
was,
that
was
so
that
that
felt
a bit
depressing.
But
in
terms
of
like
actual
experiences…
at
the
parties…
I
don’t
really
remember
having
any.
For
all
like,
for
all
the
sort
of
dark,
for
the
dark
and
sort
of
twisted
and
difficult
aspects
of
humanity…
It’s
really
important
to
always
have
hope,
because
in
the
most
unlikely
places,
and
from
the
most
unlikely
people
the
most
incredible
things
can
happen.