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How
did
you
get
involved?
It’s a
funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard,
just
as
it
was
kicking
off.
And
I’d
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him.
…
And
…
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first.
And
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot.
We
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pall
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really,
it
was
good.
Welcomed
in open
arms.
People
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with,
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
em
my
good
friends.
You
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries,
music
was
fantastic.
People
are
great.
And
it
was
just
full
on
party.
Was
good.
Describe
it
for
me.
Well
I
was
used
to
going
out
as
a
casual
guy,
you
know,
and
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
trackie
tops
and
you
know,
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There’s
no
hassle.
There
was no,
really,
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
We were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You’re
going
up
there
and then
going to
the party after?
…
Yeah.
Yeah.
What
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home.
On
the
way
there.
We
used
to
meet
after
clubs,
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
of a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
the
car
boot
up
with
pop,
water,
beer,
skins,
and
selling
it
on
the,
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune.
You
know,
we
did
…
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage,
I
was
reading
an
A
to
Z,
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said…
Can
I
buy
the
A
to
Z,
off you?
So I sold
him the
A
to
Z,
for
a
tenner
that
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
…
Put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was.
And
I
sold
40
A
to
Z’s
at a
tenner each.
And
that,
that
I tended
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could,
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people,
I
were
parked in
the
same
spot,
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A to Z’s,
couple
of
cans,
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
…
to
get
the
date
to
remember
the
event.
That
as
well,
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
…
all
the
footballs
on
Saturday.
A
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
em had
been
out
all
day,
you
know,
it
was
really
good.
It
was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah,
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the
services was
one
of
your
favourite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now where
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someones
house,
I
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there.
You
know,
and
they used
to meet
me
every
week
and say
see
you
next
week.
I’d
be
there,
4
cans,
bottle
of
wine,
newspaper,
skins
and
an
A
to
Z.
This is
in between the
club
and
the
party?
Yeah,
or
sometimes
after
in
the
morning
…
Yeah
got
ya,
you
know
really
unbelievable.
That
is
one
of
the
best
things
I’ve
heard
today.
Anymore
good memories
you want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
got
friends
now in
every
town.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
or anything
in
the
day
like
that
but,
we,
we
just
kept
in
touch
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other.
Back
then
you used
to have
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know,
I
mean,
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone.
And
we,
I
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I
can
still
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.
Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back
at
the
time
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all.
Driving
around
in some
of
the
states
people
were
doing
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
then
having
a
good
time
to
making
money.
Which
ultimately
killed
it,
for
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there.
They
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I don’t
even know
if you can
call
that
dark,
but,
it
was
a
dark
day
on
the,
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they,
when
they,
when
they
all
came
in.
That
was
a
bad
day.
Was
that
Nelson?
Yeah,
it
was…
but
they
had
to
do
something.
You
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
getting
that
big.
But
dark,
I
didn’t
see
anything
bad
really
nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.
When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished,
what
did
you
do
afterwards?
Well,
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
Army
Pals
from
Wigan.
We
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge,
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale.
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
and
I
opened
a
record shop.
And I had
a record
shop
for
15
years.
Selling
dance
music.
And
then
I
had
another
one in
Southport.
So
I
had
two
dance
music
shops.
Buying
and
Selling
equipment.
…
…
Dance
tunes
I
still
sell em
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
It
was
good.
Had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.
What
I
like
about
what
we’re
doing
today
is
that
I’m
interested
in
the
working-class
history
of
these
areas
of
Northern
towns
particularly.
Okay,
Like
a
post-industrial,
what’s
been
happening
in
the
mills
and
warehouses
working-class
kid.
Yeah.
All
the
stuff you’ve
talked
about,
football,
casuals,
but
I
go
right
back
to,
there
were
people
working
in these
mills
that
were
poets.
Yeah.
150
years
ago.
What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
Andy
is in
another
100
years,
…
some
of
our
kids,
some
of our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
will
be
you
know,
to
them,
way
back.
Yeah.
Are
you,
that,
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
em in
someone
else’s
book,
hearing
your
voices.
Yeah.
And
you’ve
got
an
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
em?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
cos
I was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what,
what do
I love?
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.
Full Transcript:
How
did
you
get
involved?
It’s a
funny
one
really.
I
was
at
a
football
match
with
some
pals
and
one
guy
from
Manchester
had
heard,
just
as
it
was
kicking
off.
And
I’d
just
got
back
from
Ibiza
with
him.
…
And
…
we
were
getting
into
the
music
side
of
things
first.
And
we
heard
about
the
Red
Parrot.
We
came
up
from
there
from
a
football
pall
really
at
the
match.
What
happened
when
you got
there?
Blown
away
really,
it
was
good.
Welcomed
in open
arms.
People
from
rival
football
teams
who
we were
previously
scrapping
with,
were
all
mates.
I
can
now
call
em
my
good
friends.
You
know,
it
got
rid
of
all
them
boundaries,
music
was
fantastic.
People
are
great.
And
it
was
just
full
on
party.
Was
good.
Describe
it
for
me.
Well
I
was
used
to
going
out
as
a
casual
guy,
you
know,
and
smart
trousers
and
trainers
and
trackie
tops
and
you
know,
shirt
and
pants
and
to
go
into
this
place
where
everything
was
relaxed
with
no
boundaries.
Everyone
was
having
a
really
good
time.
There’s
no
hassle.
There
was no,
really,
in
the
genders.
It
was
just
having
a
good
time.
We were
just
blown
away
by
it.
It’s
good.
You’re
going
up
there
and then
going to
the party after?
…
Yeah.
Yeah.
What
your
best
memories
of
these
times?
The
services.
I
probably
enjoyed
stopping
at
the
services
on
the
way
home.
On
the
way
there.
We
used
to
meet
after
clubs,
to
decide
where
we’re
going
on
to
next
whether
it
be
a
party
or
someone’s
house
or
one
of
the
raves
and
it
came
quite
of a
tradition
for
us.
What
we
started
doing
was
I
was
filling
the
car
boot
up
with
pop,
water,
beer,
skins,
and
selling
it
on
the,
on
the
services
and
it
paid
for
the
weekend.
We
made
a
fortune.
You
know,
we
did
…
a
laugh
and
at
one
stage,
I
was
reading
an
A
to
Z,
and
a
guy
from
down
South
somewhere
said…
Can
I
buy
the
A
to
Z,
off you?
So I sold
him the
A
to
Z,
for
a
tenner
that
cost
me
a
quid
and
the
week
after
I
bought
40
…
Put
a
rough
idea
where
the
party
was.
And
I
sold
40
A
to
Z’s
at a
tenner each.
And
that,
that
I tended
to
do
that
as
many
weeks
as
I
could,
and
at
the
back
it
came
with
people,
I
were
parked in
the
same
spot,
people
came
to
me
and
they
were
buying
A to Z’s,
couple
of
cans,
and
you
know,
it
went
from
that
and
then
eventually
we
even
selling
newspapers.
It
was
brilliant.
Was
that
because
people
wanted
newspapers
to
…
to
get
the
date
to
remember
the
event.
That
as
well,
that
as
well
and
the
sport
from
the
Saturday
…
all
the
footballs
on
Saturday.
A
lot
of
my
friends
were
from
football
backgrounds.
And
they
gone
from
being
football
hooligans
to
party
people
if
that
makes
any
sense,
so
they
were
looking
at
the
scores
because
a
lot
of
em had
been
out
all
day,
you
know,
it
was
really
good.
It
was
interesting.
That’s
incredible.
Yeah,
I’m
really
glad
I
asked
about
the
services.
So
the
services was
one
of
your
favourite
bits
and it
paid
for
your…
It
paid
for
the
weekend.
I
met
loads
of
interesting
people
new
people.
I
don’t
think
there’s
a
town
in
the
North
now where
I
can’t
go
and
stay in
someones
house,
I
made
the
best
of
friends
from
encounters
on
there.
You
know,
and
they used
to meet
me
every
week
and say
see
you
next
week.
I’d
be
there,
4
cans,
bottle
of
wine,
newspaper,
skins
and
an
A
to
Z.
This is
in between the
club
and
the
party?
Yeah,
or
sometimes
after
in
the
morning
…
Yeah
got
ya,
you
know
really
unbelievable.
That
is
one
of
the
best
things
I’ve
heard
today.
Anymore
good memories
you want
to
share
or
talk
about
before
we
move
on?
Just
meeting
a
lot
of
new
people.
Like
I
said,
I’ve
got
friends
now in
every
town.
Other
countries
I
can
go
to
several
countries
where
people
who’ve
moved
away
and
moved
on.
I’m
friends
with
them
all
thanks
to
social
media
as
well.
There was
no
smartphones
or anything
in
the
day
like
that
but,
we,
we
just
kept
in
touch
somewhere
along
the
lines
we
found
each
other.
Back
then
you used
to have
to
ring
somebody
up.
You
know,
I
mean,
it
was
actually
using
the
telephone.
And
we,
I
stayed
in
touch
with
at
least
400
people
who
I
can
still
call
good
friends
from
that.
You
know,
it’s
amazing.
Any
dark
memories
of
the
time?
Looking
back
at
the
time
no.
But
looking
back
now,
I
suppose
the
health
and
safety
aspect
of
it
all.
Driving
around
in some
of
the
states
people
were
doing
maybe
could
be
seen
as
dark.
And
then
towards
the
end
when
the
gangsters
kind
of
tried
to
take
over
and
you
know,
seeing
the
money
that
could
be
made
right
and
then it
went
from
then
having
a
good
time
to
making
money.
Which
ultimately
killed
it,
for
me
anyway,
you
know
if
that
was
a
dark
thing,
I
don’t
know.
I
mean
obviously
the
police
as
well
there.
They
had
to
stop
it
somewhere.
It
was
too
big,
you
know,
so
I don’t
even know
if you can
call
that
dark,
but,
it
was
a
dark
day
on
the,
in
unit
7
was
it?
When
they,
when
they,
when
they
all
came
in.
That
was
a
bad
day.
Was
that
Nelson?
Yeah,
it
was…
but
they
had
to
do
something.
You
know,
I
mean
they
had
to
do
something
it
getting
that
big.
But
dark,
I
didn’t
see
anything
bad
really
nothing
that
worried
me at
the
time
anyway.
When
it
finished
or
if
it
finished,
what
did
you
do
afterwards?
Well,
when
the
Blackburn
finished
because
I’m
from
Wigan
Army
Pals
from
Wigan.
We
set
off
the
Revenge
side
of
things.
So
we
moved
on
from
Blackburn
with
the
Revenge,
tried
a
couple
of
legal
things.
We
did
a
few
illegal
ones.
I
did
a
couple
myself
in
Skelmersdale.
And
from
that
with
me
interest in
music,
I
packed
my
job
in
and
I
opened
a
record shop.
And I had
a record
shop
for
15
years.
Selling
dance
music.
And
then
I
had
another
one in
Southport.
So
I
had
two
dance
music
shops.
Buying
and
Selling
equipment.
…
…
Dance
tunes
I
still
sell em
now
online.
I
still
do
that
as
well.
So
I
got
a
bit
of
a
career
out
of
it.
I
suppose
through
me
interest in
music.
It
was
good.
Had
one
in
Wigan
called
Flawless
Records.
And
one
in
Southport
called
Elite
Vinyl.
What
I
like
about
what
we’re
doing
today
is
that
I’m
interested
in
the
working-class
history
of
these
areas
of
Northern
towns
particularly.
Okay,
Like
a
post-industrial,
what’s
been
happening
in
the
mills
and
warehouses
working-class
kid.
Yeah.
All
the
stuff you’ve
talked
about,
football,
casuals,
but
I
go
right
back
to,
there
were
people
working
in these
mills
that
were
poets.
Yeah.
150
years
ago.
What
I
really
like
the
idea
of
Andy
is in
another
100
years,
…
some
of
our
kids,
some
of our
people
are
going
to
be
listening
to
you
lot
talking
about
a
time
that
will
be
you
know,
to
them,
way
back.
Yeah.
Are
you,
that,
you
know,
they’re
listening
to
all
of
your
stories
not
reading
em in
someone
else’s
book,
hearing
your
voices.
Yeah.
And
you’ve
got
an
opportunity
to
say
something
to
them.
What
would
you
say
to
em?
Anything’s
possible.
If
you
want
it
go
for
it.
I
never
thought
I’d
have
a
shop.
I
came
out
of
the
dance
scene
thinking
what
am I
going
to
do
now
cos
I was
stuck
in
a
dead-end
job.
I
thought
you
know
what,
what do
I love?
I
love
music.
I
went
and
got
a shop.
Just
go
for
it.