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Tell
me
about
the
early
…
organisational
stuff
then,
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda,
where
you
going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers,
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there.
So
we
all
knew
Clitheroe
Kate
…
…
on
a,
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply…
Can
we
use
upstairs?
And Kate
went…
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
1
decision
it was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
who
looking back,
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate.
So
we
had
Crackers.
Where
was
Crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex’s.
Victoria Street.
On
Victoria
Street,
yeah.
Little
building,
scruffy,
falling
to
pieces
inside.
But
because
of
the
nightclub
thing
downstairs
there
was a
bar
there
and
it
was,
it
was
a,
quite
a
good
vibe
before
you
even
went
in
and
up
there
because
you were
going
through
a
music-based
room,
warm,
friendly
people,
to
a
room
upstairs
…
like
a
whole
upstairs
if
you
will.
And
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full.
We had
about
5
6
weeks
…
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore.
So
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore,
it
was
kind
of a
brick
wall.
And
then,
I
was
…
in
the
gym
one
day.
And one
of
the
lads
who
was
a
doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
over
at’
Red
Parrot.
So,
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said…
Listen,
come
up
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want.
So
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there,
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they
went… yeah.
And
that
was
it,
we
were
sorted,
we
could’ve
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
he
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar.
And
then
it
was
boom,
it
was
…
From
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full,
the
second
weekend
being
completely
full,
…
the
third
weekend
2
or
3
thousand
people,
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property.
And
then
after
the
Sett
End,
we
needed
a party.
We
need
a
party
after
it.
And
it
was
just
Blackburn,
the
mill
town,
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought…
right,
okay,
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
afterparty
…
if
you
will,
then
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there.
Bigger
buildings,
better
buildings.
Of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
…
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
…
when
you
moved
from…
…
…
…
…
…
…
…
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night.
And now
you
know,
you’ve
got
the
same
problem
that
you had
with
Hacienda.
Your
club night
finishes
and you
want
to
get,
you
want
to
move
on.
What
year
did,
what,
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started?
You
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and you
were setting
up at
Crackers?
Hacienda
was
87
87
moving
into
89
It
was
about
…
…
early
89
…
The
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it,
it
was
an
abrupt
time
because
the
woman
that,
…
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
went…
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishments.
She
said
that’s it,
we’re
out.
And
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret,
or
Margo
…
said…
You
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era.
And
then
you,
your
up
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot?
Yep,
And
then
you’re
running
that
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
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Tell
me
about
the
early
…
organisational
stuff
then,
where
did
you
start
doing
it
when
it
started,
you
know,
you’re
coming
back
from
the
Hacienda,
where
you
going
to?
Well,
we
had
a
little
club
called
Crackers,
who
was
a
good
friend
of
basically
everybody
because
we
all
used
to
go
in
there.
So
we
all
knew
Clitheroe
Kate
…
…
on
a,
quite
a
friendly
basis
of
simply…
Can
we
use
upstairs?
And Kate
went…
Yeah,
no
problem.
It
wasn’t
1
decision
it was
a
collective
decision
of
several
people
who
looking back,
I can’t
remember
really
who
broached
it
with
Clitheroe
Kate.
So
we
had
Crackers.
Where
was
Crackers?
Crackers
was
above
Jazzy
Kex’s.
Victoria Street.
On
Victoria
Street,
yeah.
Little
building,
scruffy,
falling
to
pieces
inside.
But
because
of
the
nightclub
thing
downstairs
there
was a
bar
there
and
it
was,
it
was
a,
quite
a
good
vibe
before
you
even
went
in
and
up
there
because
you were
going
through
a
music-based
room,
warm,
friendly
people,
to
a
room
upstairs
…
like
a
whole
upstairs
if
you
will.
And
yeah,
we
got
that
moving
and
first
night
completely
full.
We had
about
5
6
weeks
…
and
then
it
progressed
from
there
in
a
way
because
we
were
told
we
couldn’t
have
it
anymore.
So
from
not
being
able
to
have
it
anymore,
it
was
kind
of a
brick
wall.
And
then,
I
was
…
in
the
gym
one
day.
And one
of
the
lads
who
was
a
doorman
of
a
club
called
the
Sett
End
over
at’
Red
Parrot.
So,
I
explained
the
situation
to
him
and
he
said…
Listen,
come
up
and
see
the
owner
of
it.
There’s
nobody
going
in
there.
You
can
have
it
for
anything.
He’ll
let
you
do
whatever
you
want.
So
I rang
Tommy
up
and
Tommy
and I
then
got
a
taxi
up
there,
had
a
quick
word
with
them.
And they
went… yeah.
And
that
was
it,
we
were
sorted,
we
could’ve
had
anything
we
wanted
in
there.
All
he
wanted
was
money
going
behind
the
bar.
And
then
it
was
boom,
it
was
…
From
the
first
weekend
being
two-thirds
full,
the
second
weekend
being
completely
full,
…
the
third
weekend
2
or
3
thousand
people,
outside
in
cars
wanting
to
get
into
the
property.
And
then
after
the
Sett
End,
we
needed
a party.
We
need
a
party
after
it.
And
it
was
just
Blackburn,
the
mill
town,
post
industrial
buildings
empty
everywhere
and
we
thought…
right,
okay,
after
the
disappointments
of
Manchester
not
being
able
to
provide
us
with
an
afterparty
…
if
you
will,
then
we
provided
our own
and
moved
on
from
there.
Bigger
buildings,
better
buildings.
Of
course,
we
made
sure
that
they
were
all
safe.
…
No
structural
problems,
no
problems
with the
integrity
of
anything.
When
you
…
when
you
moved
from…
…
…
…
…
…
…
…
you
basically
set up
your
own
club night.
And now
you
know,
you’ve
got
the
same
problem
that
you had
with
Hacienda.
Your
club night
finishes
and you
want
to
get,
you
want
to
move
on.
What
year
did,
what,
so
what
year
was
it
roughly
when
it
started?
You
were
leaving
the
Hacienda
and you
were setting
up at
Crackers?
Hacienda
was
87
87
moving
into
89
It
was
about
…
…
early
89
…
The
Cracker
thing
ended
because
it,
it
was
an
abrupt
time
because
the
woman
that,
…
who
actually
owned
the
building
basically
went…
I’m
not
having
that
devil
music
played
in
any
of
my
establishments.
She
said
that’s it,
we’re
out.
And
Clitheroe
Kate
who
rented
the
building
off
Margaret,
or
Margo
…
said…
You
either
get
rid
of
them
or
I’ll
get
rid
of
you.
So
that
was
basically
the
end
of
the
Crackers
era.
And
then
you,
your
up
at the
Sett
End
at
the
Red
Parrot?
Yep,
And
then
you’re
running
that
and
then
the
parties
are
getting
bigger
and
bigger.