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What’s
your
first
memory?
How
how
did
this
all
start
for
you?
I
was
going
to
C’est La Vie
you
know,
and
I
was
in
there
one
night
and
for
some
reason
we
got
jumped…
dragged
into
a
car
and
taken
to
Pendle
Drive
and
there
was
a
party
going
on
up
there.
I
think
it
was
after
the
notorious
riot
…or
that
happened
up
there
…or
I
left
early.
I
think.
…
…
…
But
I
got
there
with
a
mate
and
there
was
sort
of
a
small
P.A.
stacked
up
and
nobody
knew
what
to
do
with
it,
which
was
a
sort
of
recurring
theme
to
come.
You
know,
nobody….
nobody
knew
what…
anything
about
PA’s
or
you
know
that
you
needed
one
in
some
cases,
you
know
people
trying
to
use
home
stereos
and
whatever.
So,
yeah,
and
then
I
don’t
know
what
I
was
doing
wi’ mi
life
but
then
it
was
on
to
Crackers
and
attended
Crackers.
So there
was
an
obvious
need
for
somebody
to
do
lighting
particularly
and
I
was
asked
to
do…
I
don’t
know
why
but
I
was
asked
to
do
was
some
flyers
for
Crackers.
Yeah.
I
could
knock
out
posters
for
bands
and
for
gigs
and
whatever.
…
Yeah,
I
was
asked
to
do
a
poster
for it…
and
that
carried
on
for
a
while.
So,
where’d
you
get
the
idea
from
the…
from
each
poster?
Was
it
…
was
you
like
…
asked
each
week?
Or
was
it
just…
off
the
top
of
your
head.
Usually
I’d
be
asked
later
on
…
Tony
in
particular…
he’d
give
me
like…
a
theme.
Dance
with
the
Devil
perhaps
or
Beside
the
Seaside
or
you
know…
and
I’d
have
to
work
with
that.
Other
times.
It
was
just
like
a
big
tune
at the
time..
Keep
on
Reaching
or
whatever…
inspired
by
that,
you
know,
so
…
you’d
take
that
and…
do
something
with
that.
So
obviously
they
asked
you
to
…
…
help
out
with
the
sound
and
the
lighting.
well.
there
was an
obvious
need
for
it
as
well.
You
know.
You
just
see..
…
somebody
needs
to
sort
this
out.
You
know,
like
lighting
was
just
a
strobe in
Crackers
and
it
was
but
it
certainly
inside…
I
don’t
like
this.
Y’know
…
Yeah.
They
need
more.
Yeah…
so
you
got
some
UV’s
together
and
y’know
a few
pin
spots
and a
few
moving
lights.
And
it
made
all
the
difference
y’know.
We’d
had to
go
around
all
the
like
North
West’s
available
PA
hire
systems
and
convince
them
we were
having
a
21st
or
band…
putting
a
band
on
or
something
and
we’d
hire
a
P.A.
you
know…
and
I
was
the
only
one
who
knew
how
to
do…
you
know
to
set up
a P.A.
and of
course
after…
these
places
you
can’t
you
couldn’t
really
go
back
could
you?
Oh
no.
once
they
had
the
P.A.
taken
away
by
the
police.
They’d
been
warned
by
the
police.
not
too
hire
to
anyone
y’know.
When
do
you
think
ermm
this
was?
Is
this…
what…
Can
you
put
a
time
stamp
on
it?
Well
the
early
parties
it…
it
was
like
Finnington
Lane
…
The
Bike
Shop.
All
the
early
ones
before
you
came
into
it…
y’know.
…
I
had
enough
on
my
plate
and
through
a
mutual
friend…
She
said
…
Joe…
Joe…
does
P.A.
i’ve
got
this
mate
called
Joe…
He
does
P.A.
He’ll
rent it
out
so
I
gave
you
a
call
and
the
rest
is
history
because
it
was
too
big
for
one
person
on
their
own
to
do
all
that.
It
was
a
full-time
job
seven
days
at
week
spending
all…
all
week…
I was
spending all
week
driving
around
with
Tony
and
Tommy.
Doing
something
or
other
y’know.
…
Can
you
describe
how
it
was
in
Crackers?
When…
when
it
when
it
all
started?
What
would.
you
say…
was
it
was
it
something
amazingly
new
to
you?
What
do
you…
what
did
you
think?
Y’know
it
was
just
interesting
and
it
was
just
so
you
could
sell
there
was
something
new
there
and
it
was
sort
of…
it
became
this
sort
of this
movement
that
you
know.
It
was
very
important.
It
was…
something’s
happening
here.
Y’know
people
would do
absolutely
anything,
y’know
to
get a
party
off
afterwards
y’know.
It
was
all
about
the
cause
the
cause
everything
was
for
the
cause,
you
know,
it’s
work
all
week
for
nothing
for
the
cause
y’know.
And
do
whatever
it
took
for
the
cause.
We
became
masters
of
improvisation,
you
know,
I’ll
go
and
strip
a
bit of
cable
off
that
wall…
there
now
off
this
Old
Mill
and
that’ll
do
twisted
together
and
that’ll
make
an
extension
y’know.
Yeah,
we had this
wooden
chair
and
a
long
raincoat.
I
remember
me and
Tony
taking
it
in
turns
to
stand
on
this
wooden
chair.
The
one’ d
stand
on
the
chair
with
the
coat
on
twisting
wires
around
a
breaker
bar
which
was
about
to
go
live
any
second
and
the
other
one…
would
hang
onto
the
tails
of
the
raincoat
ready
to
pull
them
off
the
chair
when
they
lit up…
when
they
made
contact,
you
know.
So
we
had
that
few
weeks.
We’d
have
it
sort
of
always
there…
the
wooden
chair
and
the
raincoat.
Be like..
it’s your
turn!
Yeah.
I
think
for
me
it
was
like
Finnington
Lane
like
Crackers
you
know
before
it
got
too
big.
It
was
just
great.
Y’know
it
was
all
good
you
know,
there
was
nothing
negative
about
it
at
all.
It
was
all
good
we
were
really
making
something
happen.
Y’know
it
was
yeah,
everyone
was
prepared
to
do
whatever
to
make
it
happen.
And
once
we’ve
got
the
party
off
it
was
like…
yes
we’ve
done
it
again.
Yeah.
How
many
people
would
you
say
for
them…
for
those
first
ones?
Probably
less
than
a hundred
y’know
we’re
talking
about
like
The
Bike
Shop
and
y’know
know
Bubble
Factory
perhaps
a
couple
of
hundred
y’know
and
then
every
week
it
would
double
that
double
that
double
that.
Finnington
Lane
was
quite
big.
The
local
Bobby
turned
up
on
his
bike.
Y’know.
What’s
happening
lads?
Said…
we’re
opening
an
engineering
works
and
that.
And
we
just
got
a
few
mates
in.
He was
like
besta luck
lads
y’know…
Hope
you
do
well
with
your
business…
and
off
he
went.
Was
this…
is this
in
the
afternoon?
Musta
been
when we were
setting
up.
Or
maybe
we’d
started
the
party
actually.
It
was
earlier…
well
it
must
have
been
like
early
evening
or…
like
late-night.
Must
of
been
if
the
party
was happening.
It
was
like…
best
of
luck
lads…
and
…
he
went
on
his
bike.
As
it
got
sort
of
outta
control,
y’know
and
everyone
wanted
a
piece
of
it…
y’know
…
money,
y’know
know
money
was
what
was
driving
a
lot
of
people
whereas
we
were
all
working
for
nothing.
For
the
cause
other
people
were
all
about
the
money,
y’know.
And
yeah,
that
was
a
big
negative
especially
looking
back,
y’know.
Yeah,
you
know
you
realise
how
much
effort
you
put
in
just
for
the
cause…
to
get
it
off
and
y’know.
It
makes
you
feel a
bit
sort
of
in
two
minds
about…
a
bit
sort
of
used
really
in
a way
perhaps?
I
don’t
know.
D’ya
wanna
talk
about
King
George’s
Hall?
Ohhh
King
George’s!
Ohhh
Yeah,
I
was
like
house
crew at
King
George’s
so
…
if
a
band
came
in…
a
touring
band.
A
few
of
us
would
go
in
there
and
you
know,
obviously
load
up
…
the
gear
and
load
out
the
gear
and
set
it
all
up
basically
so
it
was
a
handy
place
to
pick
up
bits
of
equipment
and
also…
going
back
to
the
flyers
posters.
I
used
to
be
able
to
blag
my
way
in
there
going
down
to
see
one
of
the
full-time
staff
just
breezed
past
reception.
Yeah,
you
know
they
sort of
knew
me
face
so
I
could
get
in
and
the
office
where
the
photocopier
was
it
had
a
sort
of
two-foot
gap
over
the
top
of
the
partition.
So
I
had
to
jump
in
there…
climb
over
the
top
of
the
office.
Get
on
the
photocopier
and
run
a
few
hundred
copies
of
this
poster
or
whichever
that
weeks
poster
that
was..
and
once
one of
the
big
King
George’s
…
the
big
boss
came
in
unlocked
the
door
and
I
was
trapped
…
I
couldn’t
run.
You
know,
there
was
nowhere
to
run.
So
he
came
walking
over
to
the
photocopier
picked
one
of
the
posters
up
and
went…
Oh
what’s
this
then?
Y’know…
and
went..
Very interesting’
…
put
it
down
sat at
his
desk
and
carried
on.
It
was
like
okay…
sound.
So
no…
consequences
then?
…
No…
no…
Was
there
any
equipment
ever
used
from
King
George’s
at
the
parties?
Yes.
It
was…
Dave P
…
Got
nicked
after
one
of
the
parties
Taking…
driving
this….
some
equipment
that
he’d
borrowed.
Yeah.
He
got
pulled
for
that
and
he
got
in
some
trouble
and
had
to
go
see
his manager
the
next
day
and
explain
that
he
was
facing
charges.
Y’know…
we
were
actually
doing
the
pantomime
at
the
time
and
we
borrowed
some
bits
of
lighting
equipment
and
…
a
mirror
ball
and
I
think
that
was
for
the
slaughterhouse
and
Dave
get…
he
ended
up
getting
nicked
afterwards
anyway,
and
he
had
to
go
in
the
next
day
because
he
was
a
full
time.
You
know,
he
had…
it
was
his
job
to
he
was
like
house
technician.
So
we
had
to go
and see his
manager
the
next
day
and
explain
that
he
was
facing
charges,
you
know,
it
was
a
big
deal
at
the
time
because
of…
…
they’d
scared
him.
Yeah.
He
could
lose
his
job
and
all
the
rest
of…
it.
Huh.
Pretty
serious
for a
guy who’s
got a
mortgage.
and
all
that.
But
he…
he
carried…
he
got
away
with
it?
Yeah,
nothing
came
of
it,
you
know.
Explain…
explain
more
about
the
artwork…
just
explain
what
course
you’d
been
on
and
done..
It
was just
a B-Tec…
it
was
supposed
to
in
…
graphic
design.
Y’know
sometimes
it
could
come
really
easily
and
other
times
like
I
say, i’d
be
given a
theme.
Other
times
Thursday
Friday, Saturday
night,
even
I’d
be
sitting
there
thinking
oh God
I’ve
got
to
do
these
posters.
Yeah,
and
it
was
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
do.
But
yeah
like…
like
the
parties
they
always
get
done.
One
way
or
another.
I
think
you
reminded
me
that at
Blackburn
Tech
we
did
the
same
thing.
In
there
one
time
jumping
over
a
partition
to
get
access
to
a
photocopier.
Guerrilla
photocopying.
Yeah
same
thing.
I’d
have
to
run
on
errr,,
I’d
do
two
I’d do
two
shades
because
there were
always two
there
was
no
such
thing
as
colour
copy.
In
those
days
you
got
red
and
you
got
black.
So
I
use
colored
paper.
And
i’d
put
it
through
the
photocopier
once and
copy
one
side
with
the
black
and
then
I’d
get
the
red
and
put
that
on
the
photocopier…
load
everything
into
the
photocopier
again…
have to
get
the
register
get…
you
know…
get
it
lined
up
correctly
and
then
you’d
have
a
two
or
three
colour
copy
by
the
time
it
went
through
the
machine,
you
know,
you
made
the
best
of
what
you
could
you
know.
You
got
the
three
coloured
copy
by
using
colored
paper
and
using
the
red
and
the
black
over
again.
Everything’s
done
kind
of
D.I.Y
It
was
Oh
extremely…
yeah…
D.I.Y.
Yeah,
I
think
one
time
ended
up
paying
for
copies
at a
proper
copying
shop
and
I
think
two hundred
copies
came
to
about
thirty five quid
…
or
something,
you
know
for
two
colour
copies!
I’ll
carry
on
climbing
over
partitions.
Yes,
what
was…
what
were
your
first
impressions
when
this
number
started
to
grow
to
like
a
thousand
plus?
I
don’t
know…
every
week
me
and
Tommy
give
each
other
this
look.
Like
wow,
you
know.
Look
how
many
people
there
are,
you
know,
and
looking
for
venues
you’d
think…
oh
this
should
be
plenty
big
enough…
but
whatever
venue
you got…
it
was
always
rammed
wasn’t
it?
It was
always
rammed
and
sometimes
you
think…
hang
on
is this
a
bit
too
big?
Y’know…
is
this
going
to
be
too
big?
Because
y’know
you
lose
the
atmosphere
don’t ya
if
you’ve
got
lots
of
space?
But
it
never
happened.
We
were
always
full.
When
it
stopped…erm
I’d
had
enough
of
Blackburn
basically.
A
few
things
had
happened
y’know
Manchester
and
what
have
ya..
it was
just
time
to
get
out
y’know.
I
was…
I
was…
I
moved
into
Minstrels
for
a
bit
and
y’know
kept
that
going
for
y’know…
I
don’t
know
maybe
a
year
or
something
that
was
pretty
successful
on
a
weekend
y’know…
But
then
I
just
had
enough
and
left
Blackburn
and
ended
up
in
Greece
within
a
few
weeks
came
back
from
Greece…
got
a
job
in
the
Midlands
errr
met
aload
of
hippie
geezers
down
in
the
Midlands.
Put
on
quite
a
few
squat
parties
and
boat
parties
because
of
all
the…
because
of
the
record…
we
did
that
record
with
Tommy’s
High
on
Hope
sample…
me
and
Dave
and
a
couple
of
the
other
lads.
We
did
that
High
on
Hope
because
it
was
a…
it
was
just
one
of
them
wannit?
High
on
Hope
y’know.
Yeah…
that
sounds
great.
Yeah
love
that.
So
we used
that.
Made
that
record.
So
sort
of….
wherever
you
went
people…
I
mean,
I
met
people
in
Greece.
Who
were
like…
you
made
that
record?
Y’know
That
was
weird.
Everyone
had
heard
it.
Everyone
y’know.
So
these
guys
in
the
Midlands
one
day
I
mentioned
oh yeah
I
did
that
they’re like
like.
Whoah.
Yeah.
That
was
you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So…
So
I
ended
up
doing
boat
parties…
squat
parties…
all
sorts
wi’
them.
And
yeah…
I
was
work…
Then
I
got
a
job
as
a
courier.
I
was
working
as
a
courier
in
the
Midlands
for
a
while.
Did
me’
back
in at work.
Spent
a
few
weeks
lying
on
me
back again.
I
just
went
back to
live
in
Greece
again.
Spent
a
couple
of
years
living
in
Greece.
Okay.
What
about
the
artwork?
Has
that
stopped?
No,
I
still
do it
but
it’s…
if
someone
comes
and
asks
me
for
something.
You
know,
someone
says…
ohh
can
you
do
a
flyer
for
this?
Yeah,
I
still
do
stuff,
y’know.
The
radio
station
turned
up.
It
just
got
delivered
to
my
house
as…
The
idea
was
around
the
time
of
Live
The
Dream
I
think
that
was.
I’m
not
sure
but
I
remember
it…
was
sort
of
…
we
can
use
it
to
give
out
the
destination
of
the
party,
y’know
…
use
it
to
advertise
the
party…
that
let
people
know
where
the
parties.
A
transmitter
got
delivered
to
my
house
and
nobody
knew
what
to
do
with
it…
again.
So…
trial
and
error,
we
got
it
up
and
running
and
yeah,
it’s
great.
Just
used to
play
tunes
all
night
and it
never
got
used
for
giving
out
the
destination.
We
tried
that
once
we
were
in
a
high-rise
flat
and
we
saw
the
massive
convoy
of
police
driving
past
and
thought
they
were
on
to
us,
y’know
…
But
yeah…
it
was
sort
of
after
the
parties
I
concentrated
on
the
radio
for
a
while.
I
did
that
for
quite
a
while.
Yeah
every
weekend.
Climbing
up
Billinge
Hill
with
a
load
of
car
batteries
or
climbing
up a
tree
with
a
load
of
boxes
and
aerials
and
what
have
ya
setting
up
the
link
so
you
transmit
from
a house
line
of site
to
Billinge
Hill
and
that
pick
up
the
decks
from
someone’s
house
and
then
retransmitted
out
across
Blackburn
and
further
in some
cases.
I
remember
it
being
heard
over
Haslingden
and
that
y’know
for
a
pretty
small
transmitter
people
could
pick
it
up.
I remember
Rob
Tissera
driving
across
the
moors…
He
used
to
come
and
do
a
shift
and
he
was
listening
on
his
way
from
Manchester,
y’know
We
used
to do
a lot
of
flyers
and
posters
for
that…
and
it
was
just
sort
of
trying
to
keep
something
going,
you
know,
it
was
just
about
keeping
something
going.
Yeah
it was
difficult.
Wasn’t
it.
It had
just
stopped
didn’t
it.
Yeah
because
it
just
stopped
dead
in…
at
Nelson.
There
was
nothing
that
you
know…
I
know
It’d
been
our
lives
for…
full-time
job,
you
know…
44036.041666666664
one
that
we
lived
it.
And
then
it
just
stopped
dead.
So
that
was
strange
yeah.
Brian
I’ve
known
him
years
Brian.
Old
Hippie
geezer
I sorta
knew him
from
like
the
free
festival
scene.
That’s
where
I
would
Pick up
bang
…
where
the
convoy
used
to
come
around
every
year
and
set
up
a
free
festival.
We
sort
of
moved
in
the
same
circles…
you
know.
Same
as
Tommy.
I’d
known
him
for
years
like
long
before
the
parties.
Mutual
friends
and
that
y’know.
our
paths
used
to
cross.
So
what
did
you…
What…
what
was
Brian’s
connection
with
the
Parties?
Brian…
at
first
we
used
to
hire
lights…
often
borrowed
bits
of
equipment
off
him.
He never
really
cared
for
the
parties
as
such.
He
came
to
a
couple
Brian…
but
yeah
mad guy
mad!
Remember
him
with
affection
Brian.
Yeah
he was
always
very
helpful.
But
yeah,
I
thought…
I left
the
radio
station
in
his
custody.
Basically,
him
and
Naseem
ran
the
radio
station
when
I
Blackburn
and
erm…
until
you
got…
got…
until
the
DTR
took
it
off
them.
Yeah.
Yeah
what
can
I say
about
Brian.
I
don’t
know.
He
was
just
a
handy
guy.
You
know,
he’d
always
help
you
out.
He
had
that
spirit
about
him…
the
free
festival
spirit.
The
free
party
spirit.
So
he
knew
where
we….
what
we
were
about.
Y’know.
He
was
always
about…
He
was
always
there
to
help
if
you
needed
him,
you
needed him.
I remember
I
blew
up the
radio
station
on..
one
afternoon.
I’d
connected
it
to
the
wrong
power
supply
by
mistake
and
blew
it
up
and
it
was
late
on
a
Saturday
afternoon
and
I
took
it
to
him
and
he
had
it
fixed.
Y’know
he
went
and
took
it
to
this
place
and
he
had
it
fixed
for…
within
2
hours.
It
was
repaired
and
ready
to
go
again.
So
yeah…
he
was
a
good
bloke
to
know
Brian,
you
know,
if
you
needed
something.
So…
so
tell
me the
story
about
Ewood
Mill.
Of
course
he
lived
adjacent
to
Ewood
Mill
so
you
could
always
stash
equipment
in
his
back
yard
which
was
just
over
the
wall
from
Ewood
Mill.
Yeah.
Yeah,
which
is
always
handy
At Chris…
Yeah…
We
did
one
do
was
it…
was
it
Christmas?
And
I
think
we
did
everything…
got
it
all
out
his garden…
the
back
across
the
back…
alley
from
the
side
of
Ewood
Mill.
You
were
the
one
only
one
with
the
strength
to
climb
the
wall
at
the
time
I
remember
it,
But
I
could
remember
you
being
the
only
one
who
climbed
the
wall.
Yeah.
everything
got….
passed
everything
over
the
wall.
And
yeah…
yeah.
Yeah.
Well
one
thing
got…
one
amplifier
got
hidden
under
a…
under
a
telephone
box
lid
and
we
found
it
three
months
later.
So
yeah…
Yeah
things
like
that
tend
to
happen.
Pieces
of
equipment
tend to
disappear.
It
was
like…
Oh there
it
is!
three
months
later.
Or
someone would
come forward
and
said…
yeah
I’ve
got
this.
You
gave
it me
to
look
after.
I
heard
a
tale
of
some
lads
who…
when
you
started
making
the
disposable
P.A.
cabinets…
they’d
took
one
of
the
bass
bins
home
from
Unit 7
and
used
it
as
a
coffee
table
and
twenty
years
later…
they
still
had
it
as
a
coffee
table.
It
was
like
a
prized
possession.
Y’know.
They
appear
online
every
now
and
again
still.
Still
got
one
of
the
bass
bins
from
Unit 7
…
I
use
it
as
my
coffee
table.
Yeah,
twenty
years
later
or
whatever.
Oh
I did
the
U.V.
banners
as
well.
Do you
remember
the
banners?
The
people
can
remember?
Yeah,
I
did
all
those
as
well…
or
most
of
them
0.9
of
them.
So
yeah
quite
often.
I’d
spend
part
of
my
Saturday
doing
the
banners
way
various
places.
Dave P’s
garage
I
remember
nearly
err
killing
myself
with
the
fumes
coming
out of
Dave P’s
garage
one
time.
With a
banging
headache
…
had
to
sit
down
for
a
bit…
y’know.
With
colored
dots
in
front
of
my
eyes.
Yeah,
wherever….
wherever
I did
them
all
over
to
be
honest.
Yeah,
but
they’d
always
be
a
carrier
bag
full
of
U.V.
paint
some
shoplifter’d
y’know.
That
was
obviously
somebody
else’s
job.
Just
gone
two
AM
and
the
place
had
got
broken
into
and
the
van
would
be
driven
in
and
it
was
scramble…
Yeah
set
up
everything
the
best
you
could.
Some
places
were
easier
than
others.
When
you
found
a
power
supply
you
know,
the
power
was
on
that
was
great
it
made
things
so
much
easier…
I remember
wiring
up
to
a
walk-in
fridge
we
had
to
keep
on..
it kept
cutting
out
every
time
the
fridge
got
cold
enough
the
power
would
go
off.
I
think
it
was
wired to
a compressor
that
was
outside.
I
think
we were
all
holding
lighters
up
underneath
it
to
warm
it
back
up
again.
So
it
kicked
back
in…
Lamp Posts
as
you
remember
just…
y’know
some
mad
ones.
Running
the
entire
sound
and
lights
off
a
domestic
cable
that
was
running
through
a
puddle
of
water
with
people
dancing
in
it,
y’know.
And
keeping
your
fingers
crossed.
But
we
always
looked
after
people’s
safety.
Obviously
it
was
priority.
Most of
the people
have
said
the
ones
they
remember
the
most
were
the
old
mills.
Yeah,
because
they
have
the
character
didn’t
they.
There was
something
about
them
…the
old
dark
shoplifted
and
it
was
great…
and
Bob’s
nan.
She
was
an
old
woman.
She
was
a
very
old
lady.
She
wanted
to
come
to
one
of
the
warehouse
parties
…
she
worked
in
some
of
the
mills
that
were
used
as
a
young
girl
and
she
wanted…
I
think
it’s
a
100th
birthday
or
something
and
she
wanted
to
come…
and
see
the
place
where
she
worked
as
a
young
girl
being
repurposed.
She
thought
it
was
great.
You
know,
she
thought
it
was
great.
Obviously
never
happened.
She
was
a
bit
unsteady
on
her
feet.
You
can’t
drag
an
old
100 year
old
lady
out
at
three
in
the
morning,
but
she
was
all
for
…
you
know.
She
thought
it
was
great
that
we
were
repurposing
these
spaces.
And
it
was…
it
was
great,
you
know.
Bob
was
a
lad
who
videoed
all
the
parties.
Virtually
every
party
he videoed
which
became
the
Piers
Sanderson
film
High
On
Hope.
That
was
all
Bob’s
material.
Bob
was
a
proper
sort
of err…
going
to
town
and
drink
lad.
Shirt
and
tie,
y’know
know
when
I
met
him
I
had
gone
to
score
a
smoke
at
a
mutual
friends
and
there
was
this
lad
there
called
…
Dave
from
Preston
and
we
just
got
on
really
well
and
we
start…
I
invited
him
to
a
party
and
then
I
said
meet us
outside
Crackers
…
at
two
o’clock
quarter
past
two…
arrange
to
meet
him
outside
Crackers
and
completely
forgot
about
it.
Obviously
I
went
in
there
and
you
know
got
into
it.
I
completely
forgot
it
and
I
was
in
this
car
and
Bob
come
running
over
to
well…
Preston…
well
Dave
from
Preston
as
he
was
known
at the
time.
He’s
like
oh..
y’know
going
look…
What’s
the
score?
Let’s
go
to
this
party
y’know
so
he’d
turned
up
in
his
shirt
and
tie
and
his
Farah
slacks
and
all
that…
and
his
loafers!
And
yeah,
He
hated
it.
He
hated
it.
He
didn’t
get
it
at
all.
Well
when
can
we
go?
When
does
it
finish?
Y’know
…
and
anyway,
we
started
hanging
out
together
and
yeah,
well
he
had
an
adjustment
in
there.
And
he
suddenly
got
it
and
saw
the
light and
because
they
lived
in
this
corner
shop
and
they
had
a
video
camera
that
they
rented
out.
I
was
like…
bring
that
camera
will
you
Bob?
Y’know
well….
well…
Dave
and
then
I
was
in
his
bedroom
one
day
and
I found
his
passport
and
he
was
he
was
called
Robert
David
Rostrum.
I
grabbed
his
passport.
I
was
like
Dave
is
it?
Robert?
Bob?
Bob.
So
from
that
moment
on
he
became
Preston
Bob?
Yeah,
Dave
from
Preston
…
Give it
me
back!
Give it
me
back!
Dancing
around
his
bedroom
with
his
passport.
Dave
from
Preston.
The
legend
of
Preston
Bob
was
here.
Yeah.
And
he
was
another
one.
Y’know
gave
it
his
all.
Put
a
lot
into
y’know
never
saw
a
penny
y’know
obviously
he
did
because
he
recognised
something
happening.
Y’know
he
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
that.
Of
course
if
didn’t…
Well
he
was
somebody
to
be
trusted
as
well
as…
and
because
not
anybody
would
be
allowed
in
there
with
a
camera.
Oh no.
A
lot
of
people
hated
it.
A
lot
of
people
very
suspicious
And
there
was
certain
people.
Who
warned
him
off.
They
said,
you
know,
you
don’t
ever
point
that
camera
at
me
or
I’ll
shove
it
up
your
arse
or
whatever.
Y’know.
They
made
threats
against
him.
So
Bob
being
Bob
made
a
point
of
capturing
them
on
video.
Every…
every
time
he
saw
them
you
know.
A
few
like
wannabe
gangsters…
you
don’t
ever
point
that
camera
at me.
So
he’d
always
point
the
camera
at
them.
Always
well,
if
it
wasn’t
for
that
there
wouldn’t
be
any
films
with…
there’d
only
be
police
footage…
yeah
which
we’ll
never see.
A few
people
took
cameras
didn’t
they
but
there’s
not
many
photos
in
existence.
I
mean,
it
wasn’t
ideal
conditions
for
video
anyway
i’d
say
on
say
a
three hour
tape…
There’s
only
a
few
minutes
of
usable
material
because
the
light…
we
did
talk
about….
because
I
had
those
big
sort
of
work
lights..
y’know
…
I
used
to
put
one
by
the
decks
and
one
by
the
door.
So
they
could
see
what
they
were
doing
and
we
talked
about
carrying
one
of
them
around,
y’know
with
the
camera,
but
it
was
just
sort
of…
people
are
lost
in
the
moment…
then
you
you
appear
with
a
massive
like
hundred
watt
light
pointing
in
their
face…
and
a
camera
and
we
decided
against
that
one.
Just
wouldn’t
have
worked.
Definitely.
I mean
now
it’s
nothing
is it?
You
see
camera
people
carrying
a
camera
round
with
them
all
the
time
but
quite
then..
but
back
then
it
was
quite
unusual,
you
know,
to
have
a
video
camera
pointed
at
you.
Yeah
and
then
well.
I
mean
not many
people
had
a
camera
back then.
then.
Of
course
he’d
see
shelves
every
week
That
weren’t
there.
He’d
drop
it…
put
it
on
the
shelf
that
wasn’t
there
and
the
camera…
he’d go
have you
got
any
gaffa
tape…
have
you
got
a
screwdriver!
Klak?
So
well,
we
got
the
camera
working…
and
there’s
nothing
gaffa tape
can’t
fix.
The
flyers
yeah.
Where
were
they
handed
out
usually.
Pubs
usually.
I can
remember
do…
do
you
know,
the
one
that’s
just
got
the
copper
on
it?
Where
it
says
the
top
room
of
Crackers
and
the
coppers
answering
the
phone.
He
says…
Are
you
sure?
or
there’s
an
alternative
version
that
says
Oh
S**te.
Well
I
can
remember
there
was
some
behind
the
bar
upstairs
in
Crackers
and
we
were
packing
up
afterwards
and
Kate
comes
up
behind
the
bar.
Sees
this
posters
and
picks
it
up
and
he’s
like…
Oh
that’s
it.
They’ve
gone
too
far!
Now
they’re
asking
for
trouble
now.
And
he
had
a
right
strop
on
and
suddenly…
not
long
after
that…
we
weren’t
welcome
at
Crackers
anymore.
Yeah.
But
they
just
got
handed
out in
carparks…
in pubs…
wherever
people
congregated
really
y’know…
Because
I’d
do
A3’s
and
i’d
do
A5’s
some
small
ones
and
big
ones.
This
is
more
in
the
early
days,
isn’t
it?
When
you
needed
it.
When
you
were
trying
to…
There
was
no
need
for
them
after
a
while.
I
don’t
know
how
many
I did.
I’ve
never
counted…
there
was
probably
only
about
the first
twenty
maybe
y’know
twenty
different
ones.
Cos’ there
was just
no
need
after
y’know…
well
there
was
no
need
from
the
beginning…
y’know…
but
yeah,
it
was
definitely
the
beginning.
I
don’t
know
I had
enough
on me
plate y’know
without
doing
the
posters
every
week
as
well.
Really.
Quite
often
Tony.
Kreft
would
give
me
a
theme…
y’know
like
so…
Dance
with
the
Devil
I
remember.
Then the
other
one
Beside
the
Seaside
because…
that
was
the
idea…
It
was
to
drive
a
curtain
sider
on
to
Southport
Beach
y’know.
And
just
pull
the
side
back
ermm..
it sort
of
happened.
It sort
of
happened.
Beside
the
Seaside
to
be
fair.
So
quite
often.
I’d
just
say
yeah,
Tony…
here’s
these
posters…
then
give
him
an
arm
full
of
two hundred
posters
and
that
was
my
job
done
then.
Yeah?
So
yeah…
so
yeah…
I
know
that
they’re
given
out
in
pubs
and
that
some
of
them.
But
a
lot
of
the
time
I
just
give
them
to Tony
Yeah,
and
i’d
say
here…
you’ve
got
what
you
asked
for
You
deal
with
it
now.
Well,
that’s a
funny
thing
because
sometimes
they’d
appear
plastered
all
over
the
town
centre
as
well.
Oh
we
did
do
a
few
with
that.
Yeah,
we
did
do
yeah…
I
remember
going
out
with
a
bucket
with
wallpaper
post.
In
the
back
of
a
van.
So
I’m
guessing
it
was
Dave P’s
white
Escort
van
and
driving
around
town
pasting
them
up
on
the
walls
yeah.
Slapping
them
up.
I
can
remember
later
on
in
Minstrels
watching
out
over
Darwen
Street
as
the
riot
police
came
down
and
emptied
the
town
out.
Y’know
there’s
a
mounted
police
and
that…
coming
down
Darwen
Street
and
just
sweeping
everyone
along,
y’know
there’s
a
video
of
that
somewhere…
filmed
from
the
upstairs
of
Minstrels
in
the
flat
above
and
the
riot
police
getting
pretty
heavy-handed
with
people,
y’know.
Whacking
people.
Another
Bob
video
was
it?
Musta
been…
It
coulda
been…
Haseem’s
camera
that
one.
Haseem
and
Brian
maybe
were
there.
It
was
after
the
the
parties.
you
know,
when
they
just
wanted
the
town
centre
cleared
out.
down
Mounted
police.
Mad
innit?
They
just
tried
to
shut
off
Blackburn
didn’t
they?
They
just
turned you
around
and
go
back
where
you
came
from.
What
message
which
you…
would
you
say
to
a
teenager
in
one hundred
years
time.
Sometimes
I
tell
my
daughters
you
can
do
whatever…
you
can
do
whatever
you
want.
Whatever
you
want
to
do.
You
can
do
it…
y’know
…
if
you
put
your
mind
to
it…
you
can
do
it…
You
can
make
things
happen
y’know
…
That’s
about
it.
Believe
in
yourself.
You
can
make
it
happen.
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What’s
your
first
memory?
How
how
did
this
all
start
for
you?
I
was
going
to
C’est La Vie
you
know,
and
I
was
in
there
one
night
and
for
some
reason
we
got
jumped…
dragged
into
a
car
and
taken
to
Pendle
Drive
and
there
was
a
party
going
on
up
there.
I
think
it
was
after
the
notorious
riot
…or
that
happened
up
there
…or
I
left
early.
I
think.
…
…
…
But
I
got
there
with
a
mate
and
there
was
sort
of
a
small
P.A.
stacked
up
and
nobody
knew
what
to
do
with
it,
which
was
a
sort
of
recurring
theme
to
come.
You
know,
nobody….
nobody
knew
what…
anything
about
PA’s
or
you
know
that
you
needed
one
in
some
cases,
you
know
people
trying
to
use
home
stereos
and
whatever.
So,
yeah,
and
then
I
don’t
know
what
I
was
doing
wi’ mi
life
but
then
it
was
on
to
Crackers
and
attended
Crackers.
So there
was
an
obvious
need
for
somebody
to
do
lighting
particularly
and
I
was
asked
to
do…
I
don’t
know
why
but
I
was
asked
to
do
was
some
flyers
for
Crackers.
Yeah.
I
could
knock
out
posters
for
bands
and
for
gigs
and
whatever.
…
Yeah,
I
was
asked
to
do
a
poster
for it…
and
that
carried
on
for
a
while.
So,
where’d
you
get
the
idea
from
the…
from
each
poster?
Was
it
…
was
you
like
…
asked
each
week?
Or
was
it
just…
off
the
top
of
your
head.
Usually
I’d
be
asked
later
on
…
Tony
in
particular…
he’d
give
me
like…
a
theme.
Dance
with
the
Devil
perhaps
or
Beside
the
Seaside
or
you
know…
and
I’d
have
to
work
with
that.
Other
times.
It
was
just
like
a
big
tune
at the
time..
Keep
on
Reaching
or
whatever…
inspired
by
that,
you
know,
so
…
you’d
take
that
and…
do
something
with
that.
So
obviously
they
asked
you
to
…
…
help
out
with
the
sound
and
the
lighting.
well.
there
was an
obvious
need
for
it
as
well.
You
know.
You
just
see..
…
somebody
needs
to
sort
this
out.
You
know,
like
lighting
was
just
a
strobe in
Crackers
and
it
was
but
it
certainly
inside…
I
don’t
like
this.
Y’know
…
Yeah.
They
need
more.
Yeah…
so
you
got
some
UV’s
together
and
y’know
a few
pin
spots
and a
few
moving
lights.
And
it
made
all
the
difference
y’know.
We’d
had to
go
around
all
the
like
North
West’s
available
PA
hire
systems
and
convince
them
we were
having
a
21st
or
band…
putting
a
band
on
or
something
and
we’d
hire
a
P.A.
you
know…
and
I
was
the
only
one
who
knew
how
to
do…
you
know
to
set up
a P.A.
and of
course
after…
these
places
you
can’t
you
couldn’t
really
go
back
could
you?
Oh
no.
once
they
had
the
P.A.
taken
away
by
the
police.
They’d
been
warned
by
the
police.
not
too
hire
to
anyone
y’know.
When
do
you
think
ermm
this
was?
Is
this…
what…
Can
you
put
a
time
stamp
on
it?
Well
the
early
parties
it…
it
was
like
Finnington
Lane
…
The
Bike
Shop.
All
the
early
ones
before
you
came
into
it…
y’know.
…
I
had
enough
on
my
plate
and
through
a
mutual
friend…
She
said
…
Joe…
Joe…
does
P.A.
i’ve
got
this
mate
called
Joe…
He
does
P.A.
He’ll
rent it
out
so
I
gave
you
a
call
and
the
rest
is
history
because
it
was
too
big
for
one
person
on
their
own
to
do
all
that.
It
was
a
full-time
job
seven
days
at
week
spending
all…
all
week…
I was
spending all
week
driving
around
with
Tony
and
Tommy.
Doing
something
or
other
y’know.
…
Can
you
describe
how
it
was
in
Crackers?
When…
when
it
when
it
all
started?
What
would.
you
say…
was
it
was
it
something
amazingly
new
to
you?
What
do
you…
what
did
you
think?
Y’know
it
was
just
interesting
and
it
was
just
so
you
could
sell
there
was
something
new
there
and
it
was
sort
of…
it
became
this
sort
of this
movement
that
you
know.
It
was
very
important.
It
was…
something’s
happening
here.
Y’know
people
would do
absolutely
anything,
y’know
to
get a
party
off
afterwards
y’know.
It
was
all
about
the
cause
the
cause
everything
was
for
the
cause,
you
know,
it’s
work
all
week
for
nothing
for
the
cause
y’know.
And
do
whatever
it
took
for
the
cause.
We
became
masters
of
improvisation,
you
know,
I’ll
go
and
strip
a
bit of
cable
off
that
wall…
there
now
off
this
Old
Mill
and
that’ll
do
twisted
together
and
that’ll
make
an
extension
y’know.
Yeah,
we had this
wooden
chair
and
a
long
raincoat.
I
remember
me and
Tony
taking
it
in
turns
to
stand
on
this
wooden
chair.
The
one’ d
stand
on
the
chair
with
the
coat
on
twisting
wires
around
a
breaker
bar
which
was
about
to
go
live
any
second
and
the
other
one…
would
hang
onto
the
tails
of
the
raincoat
ready
to
pull
them
off
the
chair
when
they
lit up…
when
they
made
contact,
you
know.
So
we
had
that
few
weeks.
We’d
have
it
sort
of
always
there…
the
wooden
chair
and
the
raincoat.
Be like..
it’s your
turn!
Yeah.
I
think
for
me
it
was
like
Finnington
Lane
like
Crackers
you
know
before
it
got
too
big.
It
was
just
great.
Y’know
it
was
all
good
you
know,
there
was
nothing
negative
about
it
at
all.
It
was
all
good
we
were
really
making
something
happen.
Y’know
it
was
yeah,
everyone
was
prepared
to
do
whatever
to
make
it
happen.
And
once
we’ve
got
the
party
off
it
was
like…
yes
we’ve
done
it
again.
Yeah.
How
many
people
would
you
say
for
them…
for
those
first
ones?
Probably
less
than
a hundred
y’know
we’re
talking
about
like
The
Bike
Shop
and
y’know
know
Bubble
Factory
perhaps
a
couple
of
hundred
y’know
and
then
every
week
it
would
double
that
double
that
double
that.
Finnington
Lane
was
quite
big.
The
local
Bobby
turned
up
on
his
bike.
Y’know.
What’s
happening
lads?
Said…
we’re
opening
an
engineering
works
and
that.
And
we
just
got
a
few
mates
in.
He was
like
besta luck
lads
y’know…
Hope
you
do
well
with
your
business…
and
off
he
went.
Was
this…
is this
in
the
afternoon?
Musta
been
when we were
setting
up.
Or
maybe
we’d
started
the
party
actually.
It
was
earlier…
well
it
must
have
been
like
early
evening
or…
like
late-night.
Must
of
been
if
the
party
was happening.
It
was
like…
best
of
luck
lads…
and
…
he
went
on
his
bike.
As
it
got
sort
of
outta
control,
y’know
and
everyone
wanted
a
piece
of
it…
y’know
…
money,
y’know
know
money
was
what
was
driving
a
lot
of
people
whereas
we
were
all
working
for
nothing.
For
the
cause
other
people
were
all
about
the
money,
y’know.
And
yeah,
that
was
a
big
negative
especially
looking
back,
y’know.
Yeah,
you
know
you
realise
how
much
effort
you
put
in
just
for
the
cause…
to
get
it
off
and
y’know.
It
makes
you
feel a
bit
sort
of
in
two
minds
about…
a
bit
sort
of
used
really
in
a way
perhaps?
I
don’t
know.
D’ya
wanna
talk
about
King
George’s
Hall?
Ohhh
King
George’s!
Ohhh
Yeah,
I
was
like
house
crew at
King
George’s
so
…
if
a
band
came
in…
a
touring
band.
A
few
of
us
would
go
in
there
and
you
know,
obviously
load
up
…
the
gear
and
load
out
the
gear
and
set
it
all
up
basically
so
it
was
a
handy
place
to
pick
up
bits
of
equipment
and
also…
going
back
to
the
flyers
posters.
I
used
to
be
able
to
blag
my
way
in
there
going
down
to
see
one
of
the
full-time
staff
just
breezed
past
reception.
Yeah,
you
know
they
sort of
knew
me
face
so
I
could
get
in
and
the
office
where
the
photocopier
was
it
had
a
sort
of
two-foot
gap
over
the
top
of
the
partition.
So
I
had
to
jump
in
there…
climb
over
the
top
of
the
office.
Get
on
the
photocopier
and
run
a
few
hundred
copies
of
this
poster
or
whichever
that
weeks
poster
that
was..
and
once
one of
the
big
King
George’s
…
the
big
boss
came
in
unlocked
the
door
and
I
was
trapped
…
I
couldn’t
run.
You
know,
there
was
nowhere
to
run.
So
he
came
walking
over
to
the
photocopier
picked
one
of
the
posters
up
and
went…
Oh
what’s
this
then?
Y’know…
and
went..
Very interesting’
…
put
it
down
sat at
his
desk
and
carried
on.
It
was
like
okay…
sound.
So
no…
consequences
then?
…
No…
no…
Was
there
any
equipment
ever
used
from
King
George’s
at
the
parties?
Yes.
It
was…
Dave P
…
Got
nicked
after
one
of
the
parties
Taking…
driving
this….
some
equipment
that
he’d
borrowed.
Yeah.
He
got
pulled
for
that
and
he
got
in
some
trouble
and
had
to
go
see
his manager
the
next
day
and
explain
that
he
was
facing
charges.
Y’know…
we
were
actually
doing
the
pantomime
at
the
time
and
we
borrowed
some
bits
of
lighting
equipment
and
…
a
mirror
ball
and
I
think
that
was
for
the
slaughterhouse
and
Dave
get…
he
ended
up
getting
nicked
afterwards
anyway,
and
he
had
to
go
in
the
next
day
because
he
was
a
full
time.
You
know,
he
had…
it
was
his
job
to
he
was
like
house
technician.
So
we
had
to go
and see his
manager
the
next
day
and
explain
that
he
was
facing
charges,
you
know,
it
was
a
big
deal
at
the
time
because
of…
…
they’d
scared
him.
Yeah.
He
could
lose
his
job
and
all
the
rest
of…
it.
Huh.
Pretty
serious
for a
guy who’s
got a
mortgage.
and
all
that.
But
he…
he
carried…
he
got
away
with
it?
Yeah,
nothing
came
of
it,
you
know.
Explain…
explain
more
about
the
artwork…
just
explain
what
course
you’d
been
on
and
done..
It
was just
a B-Tec…
it
was
supposed
to
in
…
graphic
design.
Y’know
sometimes
it
could
come
really
easily
and
other
times
like
I
say, i’d
be
given a
theme.
Other
times
Thursday
Friday, Saturday
night,
even
I’d
be
sitting
there
thinking
oh God
I’ve
got
to
do
these
posters.
Yeah,
and
it
was
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
do.
But
yeah
like…
like
the
parties
they
always
get
done.
One
way
or
another.
I
think
you
reminded
me
that at
Blackburn
Tech
we
did
the
same
thing.
In
there
one
time
jumping
over
a
partition
to
get
access
to
a
photocopier.
Guerrilla
photocopying.
Yeah
same
thing.
I’d
have
to
run
on
errr,,
I’d
do
two
I’d do
two
shades
because
there were
always two
there
was
no
such
thing
as
colour
copy.
In
those
days
you
got
red
and
you
got
black.
So
I
use
colored
paper.
And
i’d
put
it
through
the
photocopier
once and
copy
one
side
with
the
black
and
then
I’d
get
the
red
and
put
that
on
the
photocopier…
load
everything
into
the
photocopier
again…
have to
get
the
register
get…
you
know…
get
it
lined
up
correctly
and
then
you’d
have
a
two
or
three
colour
copy
by
the
time
it
went
through
the
machine,
you
know,
you
made
the
best
of
what
you
could
you
know.
You
got
the
three
coloured
copy
by
using
colored
paper
and
using
the
red
and
the
black
over
again.
Everything’s
done
kind
of
D.I.Y
It
was
Oh
extremely…
yeah…
D.I.Y.
Yeah,
I
think
one
time
ended
up
paying
for
copies
at a
proper
copying
shop
and
I
think
two hundred
copies
came
to
about
thirty five quid
…
or
something,
you
know
for
two
colour
copies!
I’ll
carry
on
climbing
over
partitions.
Yes,
what
was…
what
were
your
first
impressions
when
this
number
started
to
grow
to
like
a
thousand
plus?
I
don’t
know…
every
week
me
and
Tommy
give
each
other
this
look.
Like
wow,
you
know.
Look
how
many
people
there
are,
you
know,
and
looking
for
venues
you’d
think…
oh
this
should
be
plenty
big
enough…
but
whatever
venue
you got…
it
was
always
rammed
wasn’t
it?
It was
always
rammed
and
sometimes
you
think…
hang
on
is this
a
bit
too
big?
Y’know…
is
this
going
to
be
too
big?
Because
y’know
you
lose
the
atmosphere
don’t ya
if
you’ve
got
lots
of
space?
But
it
never
happened.
We
were
always
full.
When
it
stopped…erm
I’d
had
enough
of
Blackburn
basically.
A
few
things
had
happened
y’know
Manchester
and
what
have
ya..
it was
just
time
to
get
out
y’know.
I
was…
I
was…
I
moved
into
Minstrels
for
a
bit
and
y’know
kept
that
going
for
y’know…
I
don’t
know
maybe
a
year
or
something
that
was
pretty
successful
on
a
weekend
y’know…
But
then
I
just
had
enough
and
left
Blackburn
and
ended
up
in
Greece
within
a
few
weeks
came
back
from
Greece…
got
a
job
in
the
Midlands
errr
met
aload
of
hippie
geezers
down
in
the
Midlands.
Put
on
quite
a
few
squat
parties
and
boat
parties
because
of
all
the…
because
of
the
record…
we
did
that
record
with
Tommy’s
High
on
Hope
sample…
me
and
Dave
and
a
couple
of
the
other
lads.
We
did
that
High
on
Hope
because
it
was
a…
it
was
just
one
of
them
wannit?
High
on
Hope
y’know.
Yeah…
that
sounds
great.
Yeah
love
that.
So
we used
that.
Made
that
record.
So
sort
of….
wherever
you
went
people…
I
mean,
I
met
people
in
Greece.
Who
were
like…
you
made
that
record?
Y’know
That
was
weird.
Everyone
had
heard
it.
Everyone
y’know.
So
these
guys
in
the
Midlands
one
day
I
mentioned
oh yeah
I
did
that
they’re like
like.
Whoah.
Yeah.
That
was
you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So…
So
I
ended
up
doing
boat
parties…
squat
parties…
all
sorts
wi’
them.
And
yeah…
I
was
work…
Then
I
got
a
job
as
a
courier.
I
was
working
as
a
courier
in
the
Midlands
for
a
while.
Did
me’
back
in at work.
Spent
a
few
weeks
lying
on
me
back again.
I
just
went
back to
live
in
Greece
again.
Spent
a
couple
of
years
living
in
Greece.
Okay.
What
about
the
artwork?
Has
that
stopped?
No,
I
still
do it
but
it’s…
if
someone
comes
and
asks
me
for
something.
You
know,
someone
says…
ohh
can
you
do
a
flyer
for
this?
Yeah,
I
still
do
stuff,
y’know.
The
radio
station
turned
up.
It
just
got
delivered
to
my
house
as…
The
idea
was
around
the
time
of
Live
The
Dream
I
think
that
was.
I’m
not
sure
but
I
remember
it…
was
sort
of
…
we
can
use
it
to
give
out
the
destination
of
the
party,
y’know
…
use
it
to
advertise
the
party…
that
let
people
know
where
the
parties.
A
transmitter
got
delivered
to
my
house
and
nobody
knew
what
to
do
with
it…
again.
So…
trial
and
error,
we
got
it
up
and
running
and
yeah,
it’s
great.
Just
used to
play
tunes
all
night
and it
never
got
used
for
giving
out
the
destination.
We
tried
that
once
we
were
in
a
high-rise
flat
and
we
saw
the
massive
convoy
of
police
driving
past
and
thought
they
were
on
to
us,
y’know
…
But
yeah…
it
was
sort
of
after
the
parties
I
concentrated
on
the
radio
for
a
while.
I
did
that
for
quite
a
while.
Yeah
every
weekend.
Climbing
up
Billinge
Hill
with
a
load
of
car
batteries
or
climbing
up a
tree
with
a
load
of
boxes
and
aerials
and
what
have
ya
setting
up
the
link
so
you
transmit
from
a house
line
of site
to
Billinge
Hill
and
that
pick
up
the
decks
from
someone’s
house
and
then
retransmitted
out
across
Blackburn
and
further
in some
cases.
I
remember
it
being
heard
over
Haslingden
and
that
y’know
for
a
pretty
small
transmitter
people
could
pick
it
up.
I remember
Rob
Tissera
driving
across
the
moors…
He
used
to
come
and
do
a
shift
and
he
was
listening
on
his
way
from
Manchester,
y’know
We
used
to do
a lot
of
flyers
and
posters
for
that…
and
it
was
just
sort
of
trying
to
keep
something
going,
you
know,
it
was
just
about
keeping
something
going.
Yeah
it was
difficult.
Wasn’t
it.
It had
just
stopped
didn’t
it.
Yeah
because
it
just
stopped
dead
in…
at
Nelson.
There
was
nothing
that
you
know…
I
know
It’d
been
our
lives
for…
full-time
job,
you
know…
44036.041666666664
one
that
we
lived
it.
And
then
it
just
stopped
dead.
So
that
was
strange
yeah.
Brian
I’ve
known
him
years
Brian.
Old
Hippie
geezer
I sorta
knew him
from
like
the
free
festival
scene.
That’s
where
I
would
Pick up
bang
…
where
the
convoy
used
to
come
around
every
year
and
set
up
a
free
festival.
We
sort
of
moved
in
the
same
circles…
you
know.
Same
as
Tommy.
I’d
known
him
for
years
like
long
before
the
parties.
Mutual
friends
and
that
y’know.
our
paths
used
to
cross.
So
what
did
you…
What…
what
was
Brian’s
connection
with
the
Parties?
Brian…
at
first
we
used
to
hire
lights…
often
borrowed
bits
of
equipment
off
him.
He never
really
cared
for
the
parties
as
such.
He
came
to
a
couple
Brian…
but
yeah
mad guy
mad!
Remember
him
with
affection
Brian.
Yeah
he was
always
very
helpful.
But
yeah,
I
thought…
I left
the
radio
station
in
his
custody.
Basically,
him
and
Naseem
ran
the
radio
station
when
I
Blackburn
and
erm…
until
you
got…
got…
until
the
DTR
took
it
off
them.
Yeah.
Yeah
what
can
I say
about
Brian.
I
don’t
know.
He
was
just
a
handy
guy.
You
know,
he’d
always
help
you
out.
He
had
that
spirit
about
him…
the
free
festival
spirit.
The
free
party
spirit.
So
he
knew
where
we….
what
we
were
about.
Y’know.
He
was
always
about…
He
was
always
there
to
help
if
you
needed
him,
you
needed him.
I remember
I
blew
up the
radio
station
on..
one
afternoon.
I’d
connected
it
to
the
wrong
power
supply
by
mistake
and
blew
it
up
and
it
was
late
on
a
Saturday
afternoon
and
I
took
it
to
him
and
he
had
it
fixed.
Y’know
he
went
and
took
it
to
this
place
and
he
had
it
fixed
for…
within
2
hours.
It
was
repaired
and
ready
to
go
again.
So
yeah…
he
was
a
good
bloke
to
know
Brian,
you
know,
if
you
needed
something.
So…
so
tell
me the
story
about
Ewood
Mill.
Of
course
he
lived
adjacent
to
Ewood
Mill
so
you
could
always
stash
equipment
in
his
back
yard
which
was
just
over
the
wall
from
Ewood
Mill.
Yeah.
Yeah,
which
is
always
handy
At Chris…
Yeah…
We
did
one
do
was
it…
was
it
Christmas?
And
I
think
we
did
everything…
got
it
all
out
his garden…
the
back
across
the
back…
alley
from
the
side
of
Ewood
Mill.
You
were
the
one
only
one
with
the
strength
to
climb
the
wall
at
the
time
I
remember
it,
But
I
could
remember
you
being
the
only
one
who
climbed
the
wall.
Yeah.
everything
got….
passed
everything
over
the
wall.
And
yeah…
yeah.
Yeah.
Well
one
thing
got…
one
amplifier
got
hidden
under
a…
under
a
telephone
box
lid
and
we
found
it
three
months
later.
So
yeah…
Yeah
things
like
that
tend
to
happen.
Pieces
of
equipment
tend to
disappear.
It
was
like…
Oh there
it
is!
three
months
later.
Or
someone would
come forward
and
said…
yeah
I’ve
got
this.
You
gave
it me
to
look
after.
I
heard
a
tale
of
some
lads
who…
when
you
started
making
the
disposable
P.A.
cabinets…
they’d
took
one
of
the
bass
bins
home
from
Unit 7
and
used
it
as
a
coffee
table
and
twenty
years
later…
they
still
had
it
as
a
coffee
table.
It
was
like
a
prized
possession.
Y’know.
They
appear
online
every
now
and
again
still.
Still
got
one
of
the
bass
bins
from
Unit 7
…
I
use
it
as
my
coffee
table.
Yeah,
twenty
years
later
or
whatever.
Oh
I did
the
U.V.
banners
as
well.
Do you
remember
the
banners?
The
people
can
remember?
Yeah,
I
did
all
those
as
well…
or
most
of
them
0.9
of
them.
So
yeah
quite
often.
I’d
spend
part
of
my
Saturday
doing
the
banners
way
various
places.
Dave P’s
garage
I
remember
nearly
err
killing
myself
with
the
fumes
coming
out of
Dave P’s
garage
one
time.
With a
banging
headache
…
had
to
sit
down
for
a
bit…
y’know.
With
colored
dots
in
front
of
my
eyes.
Yeah,
wherever….
wherever
I did
them
all
over
to
be
honest.
Yeah,
but
they’d
always
be
a
carrier
bag
full
of
U.V.
paint
some
shoplifter’d
y’know.
That
was
obviously
somebody
else’s
job.
Just
gone
two
AM
and
the
place
had
got
broken
into
and
the
van
would
be
driven
in
and
it
was
scramble…
Yeah
set
up
everything
the
best
you
could.
Some
places
were
easier
than
others.
When
you
found
a
power
supply
you
know,
the
power
was
on
that
was
great
it
made
things
so
much
easier…
I remember
wiring
up
to
a
walk-in
fridge
we
had
to
keep
on..
it kept
cutting
out
every
time
the
fridge
got
cold
enough
the
power
would
go
off.
I
think
it
was
wired to
a compressor
that
was
outside.
I
think
we were
all
holding
lighters
up
underneath
it
to
warm
it
back
up
again.
So
it
kicked
back
in…
Lamp Posts
as
you
remember
just…
y’know
some
mad
ones.
Running
the
entire
sound
and
lights
off
a
domestic
cable
that
was
running
through
a
puddle
of
water
with
people
dancing
in
it,
y’know.
And
keeping
your
fingers
crossed.
But
we
always
looked
after
people’s
safety.
Obviously
it
was
priority.
Most of
the people
have
said
the
ones
they
remember
the
most
were
the
old
mills.
Yeah,
because
they
have
the
character
didn’t
they.
There was
something
about
them
…the
old
dark
shoplifted
and
it
was
great…
and
Bob’s
nan.
She
was
an
old
woman.
She
was
a
very
old
lady.
She
wanted
to
come
to
one
of
the
warehouse
parties
…
she
worked
in
some
of
the
mills
that
were
used
as
a
young
girl
and
she
wanted…
I
think
it’s
a
100th
birthday
or
something
and
she
wanted
to
come…
and
see
the
place
where
she
worked
as
a
young
girl
being
repurposed.
She
thought
it
was
great.
You
know,
she
thought
it
was
great.
Obviously
never
happened.
She
was
a
bit
unsteady
on
her
feet.
You
can’t
drag
an
old
100 year
old
lady
out
at
three
in
the
morning,
but
she
was
all
for
…
you
know.
She
thought
it
was
great
that
we
were
repurposing
these
spaces.
And
it
was…
it
was
great,
you
know.
Bob
was
a
lad
who
videoed
all
the
parties.
Virtually
every
party
he videoed
which
became
the
Piers
Sanderson
film
High
On
Hope.
That
was
all
Bob’s
material.
Bob
was
a
proper
sort
of err…
going
to
town
and
drink
lad.
Shirt
and
tie,
y’know
know
when
I
met
him
I
had
gone
to
score
a
smoke
at
a
mutual
friends
and
there
was
this
lad
there
called
…
Dave
from
Preston
and
we
just
got
on
really
well
and
we
start…
I
invited
him
to
a
party
and
then
I
said
meet us
outside
Crackers
…
at
two
o’clock
quarter
past
two…
arrange
to
meet
him
outside
Crackers
and
completely
forgot
about
it.
Obviously
I
went
in
there
and
you
know
got
into
it.
I
completely
forgot
it
and
I
was
in
this
car
and
Bob
come
running
over
to
well…
Preston…
well
Dave
from
Preston
as
he
was
known
at the
time.
He’s
like
oh..
y’know
going
look…
What’s
the
score?
Let’s
go
to
this
party
y’know
so
he’d
turned
up
in
his
shirt
and
tie
and
his
Farah
slacks
and
all
that…
and
his
loafers!
And
yeah,
He
hated
it.
He
hated
it.
He
didn’t
get
it
at
all.
Well
when
can
we
go?
When
does
it
finish?
Y’know
…
and
anyway,
we
started
hanging
out
together
and
yeah,
well
he
had
an
adjustment
in
there.
And
he
suddenly
got
it
and
saw
the
light and
because
they
lived
in
this
corner
shop
and
they
had
a
video
camera
that
they
rented
out.
I
was
like…
bring
that
camera
will
you
Bob?
Y’know
well….
well…
Dave
and
then
I
was
in
his
bedroom
one
day
and
I found
his
passport
and
he
was
he
was
called
Robert
David
Rostrum.
I
grabbed
his
passport.
I
was
like
Dave
is
it?
Robert?
Bob?
Bob.
So
from
that
moment
on
he
became
Preston
Bob?
Yeah,
Dave
from
Preston
…
Give it
me
back!
Give it
me
back!
Dancing
around
his
bedroom
with
his
passport.
Dave
from
Preston.
The
legend
of
Preston
Bob
was
here.
Yeah.
And
he
was
another
one.
Y’know
gave
it
his
all.
Put
a
lot
into
y’know
never
saw
a
penny
y’know
obviously
he
did
because
he
recognised
something
happening.
Y’know
he
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
that.
Of
course
if
didn’t…
Well
he
was
somebody
to
be
trusted
as
well
as…
and
because
not
anybody
would
be
allowed
in
there
with
a
camera.
Oh no.
A
lot
of
people
hated
it.
A
lot
of
people
very
suspicious
And
there
was
certain
people.
Who
warned
him
off.
They
said,
you
know,
you
don’t
ever
point
that
camera
at
me
or
I’ll
shove
it
up
your
arse
or
whatever.
Y’know.
They
made
threats
against
him.
So
Bob
being
Bob
made
a
point
of
capturing
them
on
video.
Every…
every
time
he
saw
them
you
know.
A
few
like
wannabe
gangsters…
you
don’t
ever
point
that
camera
at me.
So
he’d
always
point
the
camera
at
them.
Always
well,
if
it
wasn’t
for
that
there
wouldn’t
be
any
films
with…
there’d
only
be
police
footage…
yeah
which
we’ll
never see.
A few
people
took
cameras
didn’t
they
but
there’s
not
many
photos
in
existence.
I
mean,
it
wasn’t
ideal
conditions
for
video
anyway
i’d
say
on
say
a
three hour
tape…
There’s
only
a
few
minutes
of
usable
material
because
the
light…
we
did
talk
about….
because
I
had
those
big
sort
of
work
lights..
y’know
…
I
used
to
put
one
by
the
decks
and
one
by
the
door.
So
they
could
see
what
they
were
doing
and
we
talked
about
carrying
one
of
them
around,
y’know
with
the
camera,
but
it
was
just
sort
of…
people
are
lost
in
the
moment…
then
you
you
appear
with
a
massive
like
hundred
watt
light
pointing
in
their
face…
and
a
camera
and
we
decided
against
that
one.
Just
wouldn’t
have
worked.
Definitely.
I mean
now
it’s
nothing
is it?
You
see
camera
people
carrying
a
camera
round
with
them
all
the
time
but
quite
then..
but
back
then
it
was
quite
unusual,
you
know,
to
have
a
video
camera
pointed
at
you.
Yeah
and
then
well.
I
mean
not many
people
had
a
camera
back then.
then.
Of
course
he’d
see
shelves
every
week
That
weren’t
there.
He’d
drop
it…
put
it
on
the
shelf
that
wasn’t
there
and
the
camera…
he’d go
have you
got
any
gaffa
tape…
have
you
got
a
screwdriver!
Klak?
So
well,
we
got
the
camera
working…
and
there’s
nothing
gaffa tape
can’t
fix.
The
flyers
yeah.
Where
were
they
handed
out
usually.
Pubs
usually.
I can
remember
do…
do
you
know,
the
one
that’s
just
got
the
copper
on
it?
Where
it
says
the
top
room
of
Crackers
and
the
coppers
answering
the
phone.
He
says…
Are
you
sure?
or
there’s
an
alternative
version
that
says
Oh
S**te.
Well
I
can
remember
there
was
some
behind
the
bar
upstairs
in
Crackers
and
we
were
packing
up
afterwards
and
Kate
comes
up
behind
the
bar.
Sees
this
posters
and
picks
it
up
and
he’s
like…
Oh
that’s
it.
They’ve
gone
too
far!
Now
they’re
asking
for
trouble
now.
And
he
had
a
right
strop
on
and
suddenly…
not
long
after
that…
we
weren’t
welcome
at
Crackers
anymore.
Yeah.
But
they
just
got
handed
out in
carparks…
in pubs…
wherever
people
congregated
really
y’know…
Because
I’d
do
A3’s
and
i’d
do
A5’s
some
small
ones
and
big
ones.
This
is
more
in
the
early
days,
isn’t
it?
When
you
needed
it.
When
you
were
trying
to…
There
was
no
need
for
them
after
a
while.
I
don’t
know
how
many
I did.
I’ve
never
counted…
there
was
probably
only
about
the first
twenty
maybe
y’know
twenty
different
ones.
Cos’ there
was just
no
need
after
y’know…
well
there
was
no
need
from
the
beginning…
y’know…
but
yeah,
it
was
definitely
the
beginning.
I
don’t
know
I had
enough
on me
plate y’know
without
doing
the
posters
every
week
as
well.
Really.
Quite
often
Tony.
Kreft
would
give
me
a
theme…
y’know
like
so…
Dance
with
the
Devil
I
remember.
Then the
other
one
Beside
the
Seaside
because…
that
was
the
idea…
It
was
to
drive
a
curtain
sider
on
to
Southport
Beach
y’know.
And
just
pull
the
side
back
ermm..
it sort
of
happened.
It sort
of
happened.
Beside
the
Seaside
to
be
fair.
So
quite
often.
I’d
just
say
yeah,
Tony…
here’s
these
posters…
then
give
him
an
arm
full
of
two hundred
posters
and
that
was
my
job
done
then.
Yeah?
So
yeah…
so
yeah…
I
know
that
they’re
given
out
in
pubs
and
that
some
of
them.
But
a
lot
of
the
time
I
just
give
them
to Tony
Yeah,
and
i’d
say
here…
you’ve
got
what
you
asked
for
You
deal
with
it
now.
Well,
that’s a
funny
thing
because
sometimes
they’d
appear
plastered
all
over
the
town
centre
as
well.
Oh
we
did
do
a
few
with
that.
Yeah,
we
did
do
yeah…
I
remember
going
out
with
a
bucket
with
wallpaper
post.
In
the
back
of
a
van.
So
I’m
guessing
it
was
Dave P’s
white
Escort
van
and
driving
around
town
pasting
them
up
on
the
walls
yeah.
Slapping
them
up.
I
can
remember
later
on
in
Minstrels
watching
out
over
Darwen
Street
as
the
riot
police
came
down
and
emptied
the
town
out.
Y’know
there’s
a
mounted
police
and
that…
coming
down
Darwen
Street
and
just
sweeping
everyone
along,
y’know
there’s
a
video
of
that
somewhere…
filmed
from
the
upstairs
of
Minstrels
in
the
flat
above
and
the
riot
police
getting
pretty
heavy-handed
with
people,
y’know.
Whacking
people.
Another
Bob
video
was
it?
Musta
been…
It
coulda
been…
Haseem’s
camera
that
one.
Haseem
and
Brian
maybe
were
there.
It
was
after
the
the
parties.
you
know,
when
they
just
wanted
the
town
centre
cleared
out.
down
Mounted
police.
Mad
innit?
They
just
tried
to
shut
off
Blackburn
didn’t
they?
They
just
turned you
around
and
go
back
where
you
came
from.
What
message
which
you…
would
you
say
to
a
teenager
in
one hundred
years
time.
Sometimes
I
tell
my
daughters
you
can
do
whatever…
you
can
do
whatever
you
want.
Whatever
you
want
to
do.
You
can
do
it…
y’know
…
if
you
put
your
mind
to
it…
you
can
do
it…
You
can
make
things
happen
y’know
…
That’s
about
it.
Believe
in
yourself.
You
can
make
it
happen.