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How
did
you
get
involved
David?
Well,
I
was a
uniform
inspector
at
Blackburn
and
obviously
when
we
were
on
nights
these
things
were
happening.
And
so
it
was,
it
was
just
a,
how should
we say?
As
regarding
policing
and
the
people
of
Blackburn
it
was
something
which
the
youngsters
enjoyed,
but
the
residents
didn’t
because
there
were
thousands
of
cars
coming
in
to
Blackburn
from
all
over
and
errr
of
course
the
residents
with
the
tooting
of
horns
and
loud
music.
It
was a
disturbance.
I
don’t
say
that
I
don’t
agree
with
the
parties,
but
the
people
that
attended
them
put
themselves
in
danger
because
of
the
situation,
they
were
going
into
mills
where
there
were
electrics
and
all
sorts.
I
know
that
some
were
probably
electricians,
but
it
was
a
danger
to
themselves.
Were
you
involved
from
the
beginning?
What
are your
memories
of
that
whole
process
from
the
start
of
it
right
through
to
these
huge
events?
What
are
your
memories?
Yeah.
Well
mine
was
only
from
the
point
of
view
of
Blackburn
and
obviously
I
wasn’t
always
on
duty
when
they
took
place,
but
I
seem
to
be
on
duty
when
a
lot
took
place.
I
didn’t
have
any
problems
with
it.
I
didn’t
particularly
like
the
music
because
I
was
brought
up
in
the
60s.
But
it
seemed
to
be
just
one
beat
boom
boom
boom
all
the
time.
And
in
fact,
I
walked
through
one
or
two
of
the
parties
that
went
on,
which
you
can
imagine,
I
was
in
full
uniform
and
I
wandered
through,
and
I
was,
actually
I
wasn’t
shouted
at.
It
was,
people
were
having
a
happy
time,
but
I
know
I’ve
spoken
to
one
or
two
since
abd,
it
was
all
about
drugs.
…
Well
I mean
in
the
60s,
purple
hearts
and
things
like
this
were,
it
was
just
the
society
at
that
time,
…
…
everybody
experimented
I
suppose.
But
my
own
personal
opinion
was
that
there
was
some
enjoyment
from
the
people
that
went,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
parents
who
didn’t
know
their
kids
were
borrowing
their
cars
and
they
were
coming
in
here
and…
I
can
remember
on
one
occasion
Whitebirk
Drive
…
there’s
a
dual
carriageway
and
there
were
cars
on
either
side
going
the
same
way.
And
I’m
not
talking
about
just
one
or
two
cars.
They
were
four
and
five
abreast
going
up
the
dual
carriageway
to a
venue
which
unfortunately
for
them
I’d
found
and
took
all
the
equipment
out.
That was
on,
off
Phillips
Road.
But
it
was,
it
was
just
from
the
policing
point
of
view,
it
was
a
nightmare
because
there
were
so
many
people.
I
knew
what
was
going
on
because
there were
one
or two
people
that
were
whispering
to
me
about
where
they
were
going.
…
But
there was
decoy
cars
going
this
way,
and
decoy
cars
going
that
way
to
take
the
Police
away
and
I
believe,
I
believe
and
I
can’t
prove
this
that
somebody
rang
the
Police
Station
up
and
said
there’s
a
big
fight
in
Blackburn
centre.
So
all
the
Police
cars
that were
following
were
diverted
into
Blackburn
as
a
result
of
a,
should
we
say
a
0
call.
What
was
the
personal
experiences
of it?
What
was
the
direction
though
for
you
at
work?
What
was
the,
what
was
the
official
approach
to
the
parties?
It
was
to
find
out
with,
where
they
were
and
stop
them,
because
as
I
say
the,
the
dangers
that
the
people
that
were
attending
them
they
just
didn’t
seem
to
realize.
But
an
old
mill
as
I
say,
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
dangers.
So
not
only
were
we
be
bothered
about
the
people
of
Blackburn.
We
were
bothered
about
the
welfare
of
the
people
who
coming
to
the
parties.
So
it
was
a
double
edged
sword
really.
One
we’d
got
to
police
it
and
another
we’d
got
to
be
mindful
of
the
people
that
were
attending
it
and
the
damage
that
they
could
cause to
themselves.
What numbers?
Thousands,
thousands.
The
venue’s
weren’t,
weren’t
such
that
you
could
get
thousands
in
…
But
as
I
say,
…
the
number
of
people
that
came
in
from
all
over
the
place
because
we
stopped
cars
and
they
were
…
…
from
all
over.
Their
parents
cars
and
their
own
cars.
There
was
thousands.
Y’know
but
it
was,
it
was
like
a
Saturday
afternoon
at
times
in
Blackburn
because
there
were
cars
coming
from
all
over
and
we’re
stopping
and
saying
well,
where
is
the
venue,
you
know,
where
is
it?
How
can
we
get
there?
And
yeah,
it
wasn’t
it
wasn’t
bad
and
I
think.
So
the
drugs
problem
at
that
time
was
such
that
everybody
well
not
everybody
…
that’s
wrong
but
there
were
quite
a
lot
involved
with
selling
drugs
and
one thing
and
another
to
the
people
that
were
going.
And
it,
only
in
the
last
two
weeks,
I’ve
spoke
to
people.
I
went
to
a
function
…
that
were
attending
these
and
they
said
0.95
of
it
was
drugs
because
you
went
into
a
venue
and
then
people
were
drinking
lemonade
a
Coca-Cola.
There
was
no
beer
at
all.
So,
you
know,
it
was
just,
it
was
an,
it
was a
nightmare
to
Police
really.
Bad incidents?
No,
not
not
not
bad
incidents,
but
they
were
just
incidents
that
from
the
point
of
view
of
numbers.
It
was
a
nightmare
to
Police
the
areas
that
we
thought
they
were
going
on,
you
know.
But
it
was
it
was
all
night,
you
know,
it
wasn’t
just
so
the
the
policing
of
an
area
i.e
Blackburn,
went
by
the
board
really
the
wasn’t
the
manpower
to
deal
with
both
sets
of
situations,
you
know,
the
police
and,
and
these
parties.
And
what
did
you
do
after?
You
stay
in the
Police
after
the
parties
..
..
Did
it
just,
did it
seem
from
the
Police’s point
of
view
to
just
stop
overnight?
…
It
did,
it
did.
It
seemed
to
stop,
I
know
there were
parties
in
other
areas,
Manchester,
but
in
East
Lancashire
it
seemed
to
just
die
suddenly
and
we
never
knew
the
reason
why.
You
know,
perhaps
it
was
the
fad
of
the
time.
But
it,
after
that
it
just
seemed
to
die
a
death
really.
And you stayed
in the Police
Force after?
Yeah,
I
did.
I
retired
in
91,
so
I
didn’t,
mine
was
a
small
part,
a
small
part.
And
it
was
only
local
but
I
know
that
there
were
parties
up
and
down
the
country
and
some
of
the
clubs
I
never
actually
went
to
them
or
I’ve
never
been
to
them
since
you
know,
but
I
have
attended
a
rave
in Teneriffe.
As
part
of
the
history
of
the
town
the
social
history
of
the
town.
Yeah,
What
would
you
say
…
…
…
…
…
if
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
or a
Police Officer
in
the
future
researching
this
town,
what
would
you
say?
Enjoy
yourself.
Enjoy
yourself.
It’s
society,
things
go
on
in
the
60s
70s
80s
and
everywhere
in
a
hundred
years
time
might
be
different
music.
But
I
lived
in
the
era
of
the
60s
and
to
me
you’ll
never
beat
that
music
Gilly will
probably
disagree
with
me
entirely.
And
of
course
we
met
because,
through
my
son
…
and
we
call
it
the
Friday
pint
club.
And
then
we
got
talking
and
he
realised
who
I
was.
I
didn’t
know
who Gilly
was,
but
we
got
talking
and
we
just
discuss
it
openly
now.
It’s
a
strange thing,
30
years,
it’s
classed
as
heritage now.
Yeah,
I’m
only
26
now.
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How
did
you
get
involved
David?
Well,
I
was a
uniform
inspector
at
Blackburn
and
obviously
when
we
were
on
nights
these
things
were
happening.
And
so
it
was,
it
was
just
a,
how should
we say?
As
regarding
policing
and
the
people
of
Blackburn
it
was
something
which
the
youngsters
enjoyed,
but
the
residents
didn’t
because
there
were
thousands
of
cars
coming
in
to
Blackburn
from
all
over
and
errr
of
course
the
residents
with
the
tooting
of
horns
and
loud
music.
It
was a
disturbance.
I
don’t
say
that
I
don’t
agree
with
the
parties,
but
the
people
that
attended
them
put
themselves
in
danger
because
of
the
situation,
they
were
going
into
mills
where
there
were
electrics
and
all
sorts.
I
know
that
some
were
probably
electricians,
but
it
was
a
danger
to
themselves.
Were
you
involved
from
the
beginning?
What
are your
memories
of
that
whole
process
from
the
start
of
it
right
through
to
these
huge
events?
What
are
your
memories?
Yeah.
Well
mine
was
only
from
the
point
of
view
of
Blackburn
and
obviously
I
wasn’t
always
on
duty
when
they
took
place,
but
I
seem
to
be
on
duty
when
a
lot
took
place.
I
didn’t
have
any
problems
with
it.
I
didn’t
particularly
like
the
music
because
I
was
brought
up
in
the
60s.
But
it
seemed
to
be
just
one
beat
boom
boom
boom
all
the
time.
And
in
fact,
I
walked
through
one
or
two
of
the
parties
that
went
on,
which
you
can
imagine,
I
was
in
full
uniform
and
I
wandered
through,
and
I
was,
actually
I
wasn’t
shouted
at.
It
was,
people
were
having
a
happy
time,
but
I
know
I’ve
spoken
to
one
or
two
since
abd,
it
was
all
about
drugs.
…
Well
I mean
in
the
60s,
purple
hearts
and
things
like
this
were,
it
was
just
the
society
at
that
time,
…
…
everybody
experimented
I
suppose.
But
my
own
personal
opinion
was
that
there
was
some
enjoyment
from
the
people
that
went,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
parents
who
didn’t
know
their
kids
were
borrowing
their
cars
and
they
were
coming
in
here
and…
I
can
remember
on
one
occasion
Whitebirk
Drive
…
there’s
a
dual
carriageway
and
there
were
cars
on
either
side
going
the
same
way.
And
I’m
not
talking
about
just
one
or
two
cars.
They
were
four
and
five
abreast
going
up
the
dual
carriageway
to a
venue
which
unfortunately
for
them
I’d
found
and
took
all
the
equipment
out.
That was
on,
off
Phillips
Road.
But
it
was,
it
was
just
from
the
policing
point
of
view,
it
was
a
nightmare
because
there
were
so
many
people.
I
knew
what
was
going
on
because
there were
one
or two
people
that
were
whispering
to
me
about
where
they
were
going.
…
But
there was
decoy
cars
going
this
way,
and
decoy
cars
going
that
way
to
take
the
Police
away
and
I
believe,
I
believe
and
I
can’t
prove
this
that
somebody
rang
the
Police
Station
up
and
said
there’s
a
big
fight
in
Blackburn
centre.
So
all
the
Police
cars
that were
following
were
diverted
into
Blackburn
as
a
result
of
a,
should
we
say
a
0
call.
What
was
the
personal
experiences
of it?
What
was
the
direction
though
for
you
at
work?
What
was
the,
what
was
the
official
approach
to
the
parties?
It
was
to
find
out
with,
where
they
were
and
stop
them,
because
as
I
say
the,
the
dangers
that
the
people
that
were
attending
them
they
just
didn’t
seem
to
realize.
But
an
old
mill
as
I
say,
that
there
are
all
sorts
of
dangers.
So
not
only
were
we
be
bothered
about
the
people
of
Blackburn.
We
were
bothered
about
the
welfare
of
the
people
who
coming
to
the
parties.
So
it
was
a
double
edged
sword
really.
One
we’d
got
to
police
it
and
another
we’d
got
to
be
mindful
of
the
people
that
were
attending
it
and
the
damage
that
they
could
cause to
themselves.
What numbers?
Thousands,
thousands.
The
venue’s
weren’t,
weren’t
such
that
you
could
get
thousands
in
…
But
as
I
say,
…
the
number
of
people
that
came
in
from
all
over
the
place
because
we
stopped
cars
and
they
were
…
…
from
all
over.
Their
parents
cars
and
their
own
cars.
There
was
thousands.
Y’know
but
it
was,
it
was
like
a
Saturday
afternoon
at
times
in
Blackburn
because
there
were
cars
coming
from
all
over
and
we’re
stopping
and
saying
well,
where
is
the
venue,
you
know,
where
is
it?
How
can
we
get
there?
And
yeah,
it
wasn’t
it
wasn’t
bad
and
I
think.
So
the
drugs
problem
at
that
time
was
such
that
everybody
well
not
everybody
…
that’s
wrong
but
there
were
quite
a
lot
involved
with
selling
drugs
and
one thing
and
another
to
the
people
that
were
going.
And
it,
only
in
the
last
two
weeks,
I’ve
spoke
to
people.
I
went
to
a
function
…
that
were
attending
these
and
they
said
0.95
of
it
was
drugs
because
you
went
into
a
venue
and
then
people
were
drinking
lemonade
a
Coca-Cola.
There
was
no
beer
at
all.
So,
you
know,
it
was
just,
it
was
an,
it
was a
nightmare
to
Police
really.
Bad incidents?
No,
not
not
not
bad
incidents,
but
they
were
just
incidents
that
from
the
point
of
view
of
numbers.
It
was
a
nightmare
to
Police
the
areas
that
we
thought
they
were
going
on,
you
know.
But
it
was
it
was
all
night,
you
know,
it
wasn’t
just
so
the
the
policing
of
an
area
i.e
Blackburn,
went
by
the
board
really
the
wasn’t
the
manpower
to
deal
with
both
sets
of
situations,
you
know,
the
police
and,
and
these
parties.
And
what
did
you
do
after?
You
stay
in the
Police
after
the
parties
..
..
Did
it
just,
did it
seem
from
the
Police’s point
of
view
to
just
stop
overnight?
…
It
did,
it
did.
It
seemed
to
stop,
I
know
there were
parties
in
other
areas,
Manchester,
but
in
East
Lancashire
it
seemed
to
just
die
suddenly
and
we
never
knew
the
reason
why.
You
know,
perhaps
it
was
the
fad
of
the
time.
But
it,
after
that
it
just
seemed
to
die
a
death
really.
And you stayed
in the Police
Force after?
Yeah,
I
did.
I
retired
in
91,
so
I
didn’t,
mine
was
a
small
part,
a
small
part.
And
it
was
only
local
but
I
know
that
there
were
parties
up
and
down
the
country
and
some
of
the
clubs
I
never
actually
went
to
them
or
I’ve
never
been
to
them
since
you
know,
but
I
have
attended
a
rave
in Teneriffe.
As
part
of
the
history
of
the
town
the
social
history
of
the
town.
Yeah,
What
would
you
say
…
…
…
…
…
if
you
could
say
one
thing
to
a
kid
or a
Police Officer
in
the
future
researching
this
town,
what
would
you
say?
Enjoy
yourself.
Enjoy
yourself.
It’s
society,
things
go
on
in
the
60s
70s
80s
and
everywhere
in
a
hundred
years
time
might
be
different
music.
But
I
lived
in
the
era
of
the
60s
and
to
me
you’ll
never
beat
that
music
Gilly will
probably
disagree
with
me
entirely.
And
of
course
we
met
because,
through
my
son
…
and
we
call
it
the
Friday
pint
club.
And
then
we
got
talking
and
he
realised
who
I
was.
I
didn’t
know
who Gilly
was,
but
we
got
talking
and
we
just
discuss
it
openly
now.
It’s
a
strange thing,
30
years,
it’s
classed
as
heritage now.
Yeah,
I’m
only
26
now.