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How
did
you
get
involved
with,
or
what was
your involvement
with
the
Acid
House
scene
in
Blackburn?
Well,
I
was
going
to
the
Hacienda
…
Wednesdays
Fridays
and
Saturday
nights
religiously
every
week
and
then
on
to
the
Kitchen
because
you
know
at
that
time
in
1988-89
the
clubs
had
to
close
at
2
o’clock.
So
we’d
go
to
the
after-hours
club
at
the
Kitchen,
and…
and
that’s
where
I
met
Tommy
Smith
who
was
from
Blackburn
and
we
got
really
friendly
and
then
we
ended
up
seeing
each
other
and
then
after
about
6
months
of
meeting
Tommy,
I
ended
up
moving
to
Blackburn
and
moving
in
with
him
and
Shack
the
DJ
at
the
parties.
And
just
…
just
go
over
what
the
kitchen
was.
The
Kitchen
was
an
after-hours
party
that
was
in
the
Bull
Ring
in
Hulme
which
was
it
was
inner
…
city
Manchester
very
interesting
part
of
Manchester…
very
rundown
old
flats
that
were
built
in
about
the
60s
70s.
It
was
kind
of
like
a
derelict
feeling
down
there.
Although
there
were
some
people
still
living
down
there
and
the
flats,
there
was
2
flats
that
had
been
knocked
into
one
and
it
was
used
as
a
party
venue
for
after
hours
paries
…
after
the
Hac.
I
think
it
used to,
it
was,
…
started
off
as
a
recording
studio,
didn’t
it?
…
…
…
Yeah,
it
did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What
what’s
your
best
memories
about
about
the
Blackburn
scene
at
the
time
89-90?
D’ya
think?
Oh,
my
best
memories
I
think
for
me
one
of
my
best
memories
is
if
you
can
imagine
this,
so
we’re
all
at
the
Sett End
night
club.
Yeah.
And
the
club
finishes
at
2
o’clock
and
we
leave
the
club.
There’s
about
2000
cars
outside
and
quite
often.
I
would
be
leading
the
convoy.
So
I’d
get
in
my
car,
there’d
be
a
few
hundred
cars
following
me
in
the
convoy.
You’d
be
racing
through
the
town
and
you’d
be
on
your
way
to
the
warehouse
party
and
you’d
probably
have
the
police
on
your
tail
even
at
that
stage.
You’d
get
to
the
party
after
about
20
minutes
half
an
hour…
and
you’d
lock
your
car
quick,
…
…
you’d
run
down
the
street
you’d
get
into
the
warehouse
as
quick
as
you
could
and
by
this
point
definitely
the
police
were
on your
tail,
y’know,
you
literally
had
to
run
as
fast
as
you
could
and
you’d,
you’d
go
in
the
warehouse
and
then
as
soon
as
they
got
as
many
people
in
the
party
they’d
shut
the
doors
the
police
would
be
outside
trying
to
get
in
and
I
mean
this
feeling
of
excitement,
you
know,
getting
to
a
party.
This
is
before
the
party
even
starts,
you
know,
and
then
you’d
be
in
the
party
after
about
10
minutes
everybody,
you
know
had
found
there
places
in
the
party
where
they
were
going
to
hang
out
and
and
then
the
lights
would
go
out
in
the
party
and
you’d
wait
about
30
seconds
it’d
be
complete
silence
you’d
have
10000
people
in
the
party
and
then
you
just
see
one
light
where
the
Technics
decks
were
on
…
you
know,
it
was
where the
needle
was
going
on
the
record
and
then
just
as
the
needle
started
crackling
on
the
record,
you
just
feel
this
wave
like
of
people
just
cheering.
It’s
like
this
wave
that
just
went
right
through
you.
It
was
the
most
amazing
feeling…
and
that
for
me
that
moment
them
few
seconds
was
just
probably
the
best
part
of
the
whole,
you
know
thing
for
me.
It’s
just
the
most
amazing
feeling
that,
you
know,
just…
just
where
it
was
ready
to
take
off.
And
a
feeling
of
relief
as
well.
Okay.
So
what
do
you
have
any
…
negative
memories
about
it?
And
what
are
they?
I
think
for
me
the
negative
side
of
it
was
because
I
was
living
on
the
front
line
at
Whitehead
Street,
…
Where
Shack
and
Tommy
and
I
lived
and
a
few
of
our
friends
also
lived
on
the
street.
We
had
quite
a
lot
of
police
presence
and
police
harassment
quite
early
on
in
the
…
in
the
parties.
…
You
know,
even
though
a
lot
of
other
people
felt
them
later
on
in
the
parties
when
they
were
really
big
we
felt
them
quite
early
on
really.
I
mean
the
presence
wasn’t
that
severe
at
first,
but
it
was
still
there
and
it
was
uncomfortable.
You
know,
you’d
go
to
the
shop
for
a
pint
of
milk
and
somebody
would
stop
you
the
streets.
It’d
be
you
know,
it’d
be
a
police
man
asking
you
questions
and
you
can
very
early
on
we
were
harassed
really.
They
wanted
us
to
know
they
were
there.
You
know,
like
I
know
that
they
were,
they’d
broke
in
the
house
opposite
us
and
they
were
filming
us,
you
know,
you’ve
I
really
felt
infiltrated
from
very
early
on.
I’d
get
about
3
producers
to
go
and
show
all
my
details
for
the
car
at
the
police
station
every
week,
that
was
early
on
as
well.
…
But
you
weren’t
breaking
any
laws
were
you?
…
No.
But
I
think
they
knew
that
yeah,
they
knew
we
weren’t
breaking
any
laws.
So
they
were
just
trying
to
find
ways
of
stopping
it,
as,
as
good
as
they
could
you
know.
So
the
harassment
was
definitely
a
tactic
to
try
and…
I think
you’re
right.
So
any
other
bad
things?
Bad
things,
bad
things
obviously
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
…
the,
there
was
a
gangster
element
and
that
that
was
also
really
really
quite
scary.
I
remember
arriving
at
a
party
one
time
with
Tommy,
think
it
was
in
Great
Harwood.
Crisp Factory.
Yeah,
yeah
and
and
there
was
gangsters
they’d
taken
over
the
door
and
they
let
Tommy
in
but
they
wouldn’t
let
me
in
at
the
door.
They
kept
saying
I
wasn’t
with
him.
In
fact,
they
kept
telling
me
I
was
undercover
Police.
They were
seriously
harrassing me
on
the
door.
I
wanted
to
cry,
you
know,
it
was
really,
really
stressful
and
then
going
in
…
getting
in
that
party,
finally
that
you
know,
they
were
just
winding
me
up.
They
knew
I
weren’t…
they
knew
I
was
with
Tommy
and
just,
you
know,
when
they
felt
like
it
just
went
go
on
in
get
in
now.
They
were
really
horrible
people
these
guys.
And
then
when
I
was
in
there,
it
was
just
like
being
in
hell,
that
party.
After
it
was
the
most
horrendous
atmosphere.
Mmm,
you
know
so…
stories
about
that one,
Yeah,
so
that,
it
was
that
really
but,
you
know
early
on
there
wasn’t
any
you
know,
I
didn’t
have
any
bad
experiences
for
a
long
time.
The
parties
had
been
going
for
quite
a
while,
you
know
a
good
year
before
I
started
to
feel
any
negativity,
anything
horrible.
So
if,
imagine
somebody’s
looking,
researching
Acid
House
parties
in
Blackburn
a
hundred
years
from
now
and
they
come
across
this
archive.
What
message
would
you
have
for
em?
I
think
what
I
learned
from
the
Acid
House
the….
the
culture
and
the
parties
is,
is
that
you
know,
what
we,
what
we
learned
from
this
is
that
anything
we
want
to
do
with
our
life,
we
can
do
you
know.
So
it’s
this
attitude
that
you
can
do
what
you
want,
that
you
can
fulfill
your
dreams.
You
can
follow
your
dreams.
You
don’t
have
to
end
up
in
a
mundane
job,
you
know
because
this
really
taught
us
how
to
follow
our
dreams
it
taught
us
how
to
be
entrepreneurs
and
so
many
people
had
amazing
careers
after
these
parties
because
of
the
inspiration
that
they
felt
at
the
parties,
you
know,
people
became
DJ’s
producers
film
directors
fashion
designers.
You
know
property
developers
whatever
you
want
it
to
be
you
could
be
and
before
this
time,
you
know,
the
mid
80’s
in
Britain
were
very
depressing
times.
You
know,
I
remember
being
in
my
careers
lesson
at
school
and
the
choices
were
very,
they
were
so
limited
on
what
we
could
do
after
school.
You
know,
it
was
like
do
you
want
to
be
a
nurse,
you
know,
or
do
you
want
to
work
as
a
cook
at
school?
I
mean,
these
were
the
kind
of
choices
they
were
telling
me
you
know,
and I
just
remember
thinking
what
that
what
is
this?
You
know,
I’m
sure
there’s
more
to
life
than
this.
So
it
would
be
to
say
to
somebody,
you
know,
always
follow
your
dreams
and
you
know,
the
one
thing
I
really
learned
as
well
from
that
time
was
that
and
I
still
live
with
this,
I
still
live
in
the
hope
that
we
shared
because
that
was
the
one
feeling
we
all
shared
at
the
time.
It
was
hope
for
a
better
future,
you
know.
Hope
that
we
can
can
live
together
more
peacefully
and…
and
love
you
know,
that
love
is
probably
the
most
important
thing
for
us
all.
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How
did
you
get
involved
with,
or
what was
your involvement
with
the
Acid
House
scene
in
Blackburn?
Well,
I
was
going
to
the
Hacienda
…
Wednesdays
Fridays
and
Saturday
nights
religiously
every
week
and
then
on
to
the
Kitchen
because
you
know
at
that
time
in
1988-89
the
clubs
had
to
close
at
2
o’clock.
So
we’d
go
to
the
after-hours
club
at
the
Kitchen,
and…
and
that’s
where
I
met
Tommy
Smith
who
was
from
Blackburn
and
we
got
really
friendly
and
then
we
ended
up
seeing
each
other
and
then
after
about
6
months
of
meeting
Tommy,
I
ended
up
moving
to
Blackburn
and
moving
in
with
him
and
Shack
the
DJ
at
the
parties.
And
just
…
just
go
over
what
the
kitchen
was.
The
Kitchen
was
an
after-hours
party
that
was
in
the
Bull
Ring
in
Hulme
which
was
it
was
inner
…
city
Manchester
very
interesting
part
of
Manchester…
very
rundown
old
flats
that
were
built
in
about
the
60s
70s.
It
was
kind
of
like
a
derelict
feeling
down
there.
Although
there
were
some
people
still
living
down
there
and
the
flats,
there
was
2
flats
that
had
been
knocked
into
one
and
it
was
used
as
a
party
venue
for
after
hours
paries
…
after
the
Hac.
I
think
it
used to,
it
was,
…
started
off
as
a
recording
studio,
didn’t
it?
…
…
…
Yeah,
it
did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What
what’s
your
best
memories
about
about
the
Blackburn
scene
at
the
time
89-90?
D’ya
think?
Oh,
my
best
memories
I
think
for
me
one
of
my
best
memories
is
if
you
can
imagine
this,
so
we’re
all
at
the
Sett End
night
club.
Yeah.
And
the
club
finishes
at
2
o’clock
and
we
leave
the
club.
There’s
about
2000
cars
outside
and
quite
often.
I
would
be
leading
the
convoy.
So
I’d
get
in
my
car,
there’d
be
a
few
hundred
cars
following
me
in
the
convoy.
You’d
be
racing
through
the
town
and
you’d
be
on
your
way
to
the
warehouse
party
and
you’d
probably
have
the
police
on
your
tail
even
at
that
stage.
You’d
get
to
the
party
after
about
20
minutes
half
an
hour…
and
you’d
lock
your
car
quick,
…
…
you’d
run
down
the
street
you’d
get
into
the
warehouse
as
quick
as
you
could
and
by
this
point
definitely
the
police
were
on your
tail,
y’know,
you
literally
had
to
run
as
fast
as
you
could
and
you’d,
you’d
go
in
the
warehouse
and
then
as
soon
as
they
got
as
many
people
in
the
party
they’d
shut
the
doors
the
police
would
be
outside
trying
to
get
in
and
I
mean
this
feeling
of
excitement,
you
know,
getting
to
a
party.
This
is
before
the
party
even
starts,
you
know,
and
then
you’d
be
in
the
party
after
about
10
minutes
everybody,
you
know
had
found
there
places
in
the
party
where
they
were
going
to
hang
out
and
and
then
the
lights
would
go
out
in
the
party
and
you’d
wait
about
30
seconds
it’d
be
complete
silence
you’d
have
10000
people
in
the
party
and
then
you
just
see
one
light
where
the
Technics
decks
were
on
…
you
know,
it
was
where the
needle
was
going
on
the
record
and
then
just
as
the
needle
started
crackling
on
the
record,
you
just
feel
this
wave
like
of
people
just
cheering.
It’s
like
this
wave
that
just
went
right
through
you.
It
was
the
most
amazing
feeling…
and
that
for
me
that
moment
them
few
seconds
was
just
probably
the
best
part
of
the
whole,
you
know
thing
for
me.
It’s
just
the
most
amazing
feeling
that,
you
know,
just…
just
where
it
was
ready
to
take
off.
And
a
feeling
of
relief
as
well.
Okay.
So
what
do
you
have
any
…
negative
memories
about
it?
And
what
are
they?
I
think
for
me
the
negative
side
of
it
was
because
I
was
living
on
the
front
line
at
Whitehead
Street,
…
Where
Shack
and
Tommy
and
I
lived
and
a
few
of
our
friends
also
lived
on
the
street.
We
had
quite
a
lot
of
police
presence
and
police
harassment
quite
early
on
in
the
…
in
the
parties.
…
You
know,
even
though
a
lot
of
other
people
felt
them
later
on
in
the
parties
when
they
were
really
big
we
felt
them
quite
early
on
really.
I
mean
the
presence
wasn’t
that
severe
at
first,
but
it
was
still
there
and
it
was
uncomfortable.
You
know,
you’d
go
to
the
shop
for
a
pint
of
milk
and
somebody
would
stop
you
the
streets.
It’d
be
you
know,
it’d
be
a
police
man
asking
you
questions
and
you
can
very
early
on
we
were
harassed
really.
They
wanted
us
to
know
they
were
there.
You
know,
like
I
know
that
they
were,
they’d
broke
in
the
house
opposite
us
and
they
were
filming
us,
you
know,
you’ve
I
really
felt
infiltrated
from
very
early
on.
I’d
get
about
3
producers
to
go
and
show
all
my
details
for
the
car
at
the
police
station
every
week,
that
was
early
on
as
well.
…
But
you
weren’t
breaking
any
laws
were
you?
…
No.
But
I
think
they
knew
that
yeah,
they
knew
we
weren’t
breaking
any
laws.
So
they
were
just
trying
to
find
ways
of
stopping
it,
as,
as
good
as
they
could
you
know.
So
the
harassment
was
definitely
a
tactic
to
try
and…
I think
you’re
right.
So
any
other
bad
things?
Bad
things,
bad
things
obviously
towards
the
end
of
the
parties
…
the,
there
was
a
gangster
element
and
that
that
was
also
really
really
quite
scary.
I
remember
arriving
at
a
party
one
time
with
Tommy,
think
it
was
in
Great
Harwood.
Crisp Factory.
Yeah,
yeah
and
and
there
was
gangsters
they’d
taken
over
the
door
and
they
let
Tommy
in
but
they
wouldn’t
let
me
in
at
the
door.
They
kept
saying
I
wasn’t
with
him.
In
fact,
they
kept
telling
me
I
was
undercover
Police.
They were
seriously
harrassing me
on
the
door.
I
wanted
to
cry,
you
know,
it
was
really,
really
stressful
and
then
going
in
…
getting
in
that
party,
finally
that
you
know,
they
were
just
winding
me
up.
They
knew
I
weren’t…
they
knew
I
was
with
Tommy
and
just,
you
know,
when
they
felt
like
it
just
went
go
on
in
get
in
now.
They
were
really
horrible
people
these
guys.
And
then
when
I
was
in
there,
it
was
just
like
being
in
hell,
that
party.
After
it
was
the
most
horrendous
atmosphere.
Mmm,
you
know
so…
stories
about
that one,
Yeah,
so
that,
it
was
that
really
but,
you
know
early
on
there
wasn’t
any
you
know,
I
didn’t
have
any
bad
experiences
for
a
long
time.
The
parties
had
been
going
for
quite
a
while,
you
know
a
good
year
before
I
started
to
feel
any
negativity,
anything
horrible.
So
if,
imagine
somebody’s
looking,
researching
Acid
House
parties
in
Blackburn
a
hundred
years
from
now
and
they
come
across
this
archive.
What
message
would
you
have
for
em?
I
think
what
I
learned
from
the
Acid
House
the….
the
culture
and
the
parties
is,
is
that
you
know,
what
we,
what
we
learned
from
this
is
that
anything
we
want
to
do
with
our
life,
we
can
do
you
know.
So
it’s
this
attitude
that
you
can
do
what
you
want,
that
you
can
fulfill
your
dreams.
You
can
follow
your
dreams.
You
don’t
have
to
end
up
in
a
mundane
job,
you
know
because
this
really
taught
us
how
to
follow
our
dreams
it
taught
us
how
to
be
entrepreneurs
and
so
many
people
had
amazing
careers
after
these
parties
because
of
the
inspiration
that
they
felt
at
the
parties,
you
know,
people
became
DJ’s
producers
film
directors
fashion
designers.
You
know
property
developers
whatever
you
want
it
to
be
you
could
be
and
before
this
time,
you
know,
the
mid
80’s
in
Britain
were
very
depressing
times.
You
know,
I
remember
being
in
my
careers
lesson
at
school
and
the
choices
were
very,
they
were
so
limited
on
what
we
could
do
after
school.
You
know,
it
was
like
do
you
want
to
be
a
nurse,
you
know,
or
do
you
want
to
work
as
a
cook
at
school?
I
mean,
these
were
the
kind
of
choices
they
were
telling
me
you
know,
and I
just
remember
thinking
what
that
what
is
this?
You
know,
I’m
sure
there’s
more
to
life
than
this.
So
it
would
be
to
say
to
somebody,
you
know,
always
follow
your
dreams
and
you
know,
the
one
thing
I
really
learned
as
well
from
that
time
was
that
and
I
still
live
with
this,
I
still
live
in
the
hope
that
we
shared
because
that
was
the
one
feeling
we
all
shared
at
the
time.
It
was
hope
for
a
better
future,
you
know.
Hope
that
we
can
can
live
together
more
peacefully
and…
and
love
you
know,
that
love
is
probably
the
most
important
thing
for
us
all.